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Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by rficcaglia on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:42AM (#20746258)
If one country can’t get its stuff together across religious, educational, socioeconomic and cultural barriers....how can a planet scale coordinated governmental effort by committee work?

Ask Al Gore how that worked. Or the Paris Treaty folks.

Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by yk on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @09:18AM (#20746635)
Works pretty well, except for the one country that is currently self sanctioning under the assumption that trade wars are easy to win.
Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @11:35AM (#20748114)
Waiting for consensus is garbage. We don't need to wait for everybody else to do the right thing before we do it.

You also don't need an international agreement to impose tariffs on any country that emits more than a given amount of CO2 per capita, and if more than a couple of countries impose those conditions (or even just one big one like the US) then it gives others domestic cover to do something meaningful because they can argue they have to do it to avoid the tariffs. Meanwhile they can "retaliate" by imposing the same conditions and soon enough everyone is hitting their targets to avoid all the tariffs, without anyone ever having to sign up for a unified agreement.

Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by pfisch on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @09:53AM (#20747038)
Really? Are the other countries on target? I heard the EU was not.

I want it to work. I'm just not sure it is, or if humans are even capable of coordinating on the scale required to address this problem outside of some geoengineering solution.

Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by arbitrary_name on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @11:32AM (#20748066)
We used to only live and cooperate with tightly knot tribal groups. Now we often call ourselves Americans, Europeans, Arabs, Jews, Sikhs etc. We are capable of cooperating on a global scale but a certain group of self interested folks need to get out of the way
Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by pfisch on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @07:23PM (#20753251)
Well if they are unwilling to do that it seems like we aren't really capable of it.

Just like we aren't capable of operating without corruption or war because a certain group of people won't "get out of the way"

Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by smolder on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @08:53AM (#20746362)
Not all committees and not all governments are equal. You can't throw away either.
Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by rficcaglia on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @09:04AM (#20746478)
True but all you need is one of the bigger ones to spoil the party and that gives cover for everyone else. This problem cannot be solved by committee. I don’t expect anyone to agree with me, I just plan to move to higher ground.
Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by tropicalia on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @02:35PM (#20750389)
How can a planet scale coordinated governmental effort by committee work?

The same way countless other endangered subsets of humanity (particularly those facing essentially total annihilation by, or permanent subservience to a foreign occupier) have: by recognizing the simple the simple fact that they'll either have to put their heads together, put aside their differences, and "figure out a way" to prevail against overwhelming odds --

or face the inevitable consequences of failing to do so.

Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by kingkawn on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @09:14AM (#20746593)
Our impending universal death may provide the inspiration we’ve been missing
Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by madaxe_again on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @09:42AM (#20746899)
I think the transition from apathy to resignation will be seamless - humans are not good at dealing with long term risk and threat. When it becomes an imminent threat, which will likely be soon, it will already be too late.

No, the only way anything changes is at the point of a spear. There has to be an imminent and tangible threat, now. Otherwise, it’s business as usual.

Re:Scientists Have Been Underestimating the Pace of Climate ... by ulisesrmzroche on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @09:50PM (#20753983)
I dunno who downvoted y’all but this place has always been square ville. I suppose it’s even worse now

Anyway, Civilizations come and go. The Romans, at one point, had running water too

Whose to say we ain’t bout to run into another dark age?

But for sure, Silicon Valley has nothing to contribute

There’s not a single drop of revolutionary blood in that city