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Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by rosser on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:40AM (#20735438)
> ...if I wasn’t going to be with her, I had to let her go so she could find someone else.

That's not an ultimatum, though I can see how it might read that way. She felt a need, which he wasn't meeting. She told him that if he wouldn't meet it, he needed to let her go seek its fulfillment elsewhere.

Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by maxheadroom on Monday August 19, 2019 @06:44AM (#20736621)
>She told him that if he wouldn't meet it, he needed to let her go seek its fulfillment elsewhere.

This seems like a vague sense of displaced blame, however; so I can understand how people will view it as a red flag: There's nothing preventing her from leaving of her own volition but it's inferred that she has no possibility of choice (without him having to have made a choice) - even though he's already signaled his desires multiple times before.

In that sense, it is an ultimatum but one that tries to absolve guilt by making the "decision-maker" the "owner" of the result/consequence - even though, in reality, both would suffer the consequences of the choice.

Further still, is the impression inferred that she's a prisoner because she's "bound" to him because he needs to "let her go" if he won't fulfill her desire[s]; inferring that, somehow, he - alone - wields power over her self-agency.

That doesn't quite make sense - when a healthy relationship should be two independent people sharing in the relationship "power" dynamic. In other words, it should not be so skewed that one has power/control over life, destiny, etc. of another.

In this perspective, it does seem to be a very troubling red flag.

Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by zajio1am on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:24AM (#20737496)
Well, i would much prefer a partner that explicitly states what are his/her show-stoppers for the relationship, than one that states preferences but not their importance and then just leaves when key preferences are not satisfied.

Also, i do not understand why ever speak about guilt in this case - if there is no commitment then there is no guilt when relationship is dissolved.

Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by TheOtherHobbes on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:44AM (#20737207)
The vintage term is "guilt trip."

If you reverse it - the man says "If you don't marry me, I'll get another dog" - it looks rather less convincing.

Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by decoyworker on Monday August 19, 2019 @06:53AM (#20736675)
What need? The need to continue doing what they were already doing but under contract?
Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by criddell on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:23AM (#20737488)
Some people see marriage as more than just a contract.
Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by rosser on Monday August 19, 2019 @03:36PM (#20741027)
Just because you don't see a particular value in something does not mean it lacks that value for others.

Frankly, I find this to be far more a "My way or the highway" kind of attitude than the quoted bit from The Fine Article — you don't seem even to concede the possibility of marriage being more than a "contract", when, for most people, that's among the least of what it's about.

Re:She Wanted a Man with a Good Job Who Is Nice to Animals by austhrow743 on Monday August 19, 2019 @07:50AM (#20736921)
Clearly yes.