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Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by gibolt on Monday August 19, 2019 @01:42AM (#20735176)
Every electric car slated to arrive has been called a Tesla killer in article after article, sometimes individually, often as a collective.

Several of them are targeting Tesla owners with discounts, ads at superchargers, etc... The companies clearly think they are competing with Tesla, especially since they don't want to compete with themselves (ICE models).

As for doing their own thing, most have a battery shortage and are confined to small cars with relatively small battery packs for now until more batteries are available (none of whom are vertically integrating production).

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by rumanator on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:01AM (#20735253)
> Every electric car slated to arrive has been called a Tesla killer in article after article, sometimes individually, often as a collective.

The number of Nissan Leafs sold so far are close to twice the number of Tesla model Ss sold.

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by srfilipek on Monday August 19, 2019 @07:57AM (#20736959)
That's a really weird and selective comparison.

Tesla has sold 1.6x the number of Model 3's in the past 2 years than Nissan has sold Leaf's... ever.

Sources (US):

* 136K Leafs: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/nissan/nissan-leaf...

* 223K Model 3s: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/tesla/tesla-model-...

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by clouddrover on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:03AM (#20736990)
Those are only US sales. The Leaf has sold over 400,000 globally: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/287096-nissan-leaf-ev-40...
Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by psychrometer on Monday August 19, 2019 @01:35PM (#20739804)
The Nissan Leaf launched in 2010. The Tesla Model 3 launched in 2017.
Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by gibolt on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:19AM (#20735338)
Nissan Leaf has been on the market with a low price much longer. Sales have slumped since the Model 3 scaled up, news about their battery overheating, and their refusal to produce a vehicle with larger range. It is not a Tesla killer, but was for many a stop-gap solution while waiting for the 3, and Tesla will soon eclipse them in sales. That gap is unlikely to narrow
Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by rumanator on Monday August 19, 2019 @06:43AM (#20736614)
> Leaf has been on the market with a low price much longer.

So Nissan beat Tesla with a model not only in time to market but also with it's superior price, which resulted so far in selling twice as many cars as Tesla's direct competitors to the Nissan Leaf.

> It is not a Tesla killer

Nothing will ever be if the goalpost is kept moving like that.

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by llampx on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:09AM (#20737370)
Tesla is moving the goalposts by producing more and more electric vehicles that people want to buy.

The Nissan Leaf and Leaf Plus doesn't come into consideration for me because of its pitiful range, the ChADeMO connector and lack of active cooling for the battery pack.

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by icelancer on Monday August 19, 2019 @03:31AM (#20735670)
>> Nissan Leaf

>> Tesla Model S

Not comparable cars.

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by krzyk on Monday August 19, 2019 @04:12AM (#20735867)
>>>> Every electric car slated to arrive has been called a Tesla killer >>> Nissan Leaf >>> Tesla Model S >Not comparable cars.

Not comparable, but look at the post that was the origin of that response, it was only about "electric cars" in general.

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by rumanator on Monday August 19, 2019 @06:29AM (#20736534)
If you move the goalpost enough you'll manage to argue that Tesla's products are the absolute best in a category where they are the only products.

Meanwhile a hatchback and a lift back are hardly not competing in the same market segment.

Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by bryanlarsen on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:11AM (#20737028)
Which happened mostly before the release of the 3. Since then the 3 has dominated, despite being more expensive. The question isn't whether the Leaf is a Tesla killer, the question is whether the 3 is a Leaf killer.
Re:Jaguar and Audi SUVs Fail to Dent Tesla’s Electric-Car Do... by xedeon on Monday August 19, 2019 @03:49AM (#20735762)
Absolutely false: U.S. Electric Vehicles Sales by Model (2012-2019) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpsd0yRYk8c