xedeon
What other EV manufacturers are you even referring here? Do you even know the top 5 EV manufacturers in terms of global sales?
You must be trolling. 'Having seen them up close' isn't a serious basis for an opinion on an any vehicle. Take a proper 24-hour test drive and then talk about build quality.
The data you're referring to is from Oct 2025 we're talking about the entire 2025 CY here.
> Overall tesla models looks dated, quality is not great, ongoing safety issue with underwhelming responses, competition on the ev segment is just better on many points now.
That's your uninformed biased opinion. If it were even remotely true, the Model Y will not be the world's best selling car for 3 years in a row. Math and sales numbers don't lie.
Surely this can't be a serious nor a logical statement so I'll have to assume it's a joke or engagement bait. Here are 3 that I can think off the top of my head.
1. Robotaxi TAM: Tesla's already running unsupervised Robotaxis (no safety driver) in Austin tests as of late 2025, with plans to expand cities in 2026 — that's not vaporware, it's early scaling of high-margin autonomy.
2. Cross-country FSD milestone? Legit: A Tesla owner just nailed 10,000+ intervention-free miles on FSD v14.2 coast-to-coast in Dec 2025, including parking and Supercharging — verified via telemetry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnLswbNB0SU
3. Model Y #1 for 3rd year? Tesla proudly claimed it in their 2025 recap as of the latest DEC 2025 data.
Stock still up ~11-25% in 2025 despite EV headwinds and ending of EV credits because the market prices in future upside: autonomy software margins, energy storage boom, Optimus, and robotaxi fleets. That's logical valuation, not "no reason."
Dismissing all that while cherry picking doubts is at best nothing but drivel.
Interesting take there. Tesla Model Y is the #1 best-selling car globally in 2025 for the third year.
Meanwhile, your BYD is bleeding from real price wars and demand slumps. Tesla's valuation? Still baked in autonomy, energy, and AI upside not just car volume. Calling it "air" while hyping your own wishful dominance is nothing but peak projection.
*Key word* is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the *Kei* class of vehicles and the price is really attractive.
I was also referring outside of the Japanese domestic market. Which the Hilux Champ is slated to be released.
https://www.motor1.com/news/701958/toyota-hilux-champ-cheap-...
I really hope Toyota brings it to the U.S. it will sell like hotcakes. I really like the modularity aspect the most.
Their free service can also auto detect and notify you of leaked secrets, passwords or high entropy lines from your online repos.
Tire falls off United plane after takeoff from SFO
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/united-p...
A closer comparison would be pusô or tamu from Cebu. Also known as “hanging rice”.
While pusô itself usually contains plain rice, it is often eaten with savory dishes or as part of a larger meal.
You don’t really do that with EVs either. The navigation system takes all of that into account, including live metrics such as temperature, wind, weather, and elevation. It takes the guesswork out of non-trivial tasks.
The only valid issue is the poorly maintained Electrify America chargers for non-Tesla EVs.
But that’s about to change in the U.S., since pretty much everyone is adopting the NACS/SAE J340 Standard. This will make them compatible with Tesla Superchargers.
Apps like ABRP also exist, which are even compatible with level 2 charging:
Because you were and it must have struck a nerve. :)
> So don't start crying about "healthy discourse" now.
But I thought "itsoktocry" is that not true anymore?
I made all of these headlines up?
https://news.google.com/search?q=Tesla%20accident
Find me the same amount of headlines where another make/model of the vehicle involved in a serious accident is mentioned on the headline itself.
What a very nice and compelling ad hominem argument. It's clear that you're very uninformed.
> Yes, it's all a big conspiracy
Questioning about a possible bias is conspiracy talk now? What ever happened to healthy discourse? It seems the level of your knowledge does not go beyond the news headlines.
> Do we know it doesn't cheat?
Then the nav won't be accurate then would it? Also: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-pannone-3a414610/
Also, from your linked article:
"One of the experts, Gregory Pannone, co-authored a study of 21 different brands of electric vehicles, published in April by SAE International, an engineering organization. The research found that, on average, the cars fell short of their advertised ranges by 12.5% in highway driving. The study did not name the brands tested.."
> The study did not name the brands tested..
I was curious why that is. So I did some digging and found this very reassuring info. I'm sure there's no bias right?
*Gregory Pannone*
Sr. EngineerSr. Engineer General Motors
Engineer/InternEngineer/Intern BP p.l.c. British multinational oil and gas
FCA Fiat Chrysler Automobiles logo Head of Fuel Economy, Performance, and P/T Synthesis Chrysler LLC*
That's not even close to reality and not intellectually honest. It's a fact that anything with "Tesla" on the headline gets clicks. A Tesla gets t-boned by another vehicle and the next day will get headlines like:
"Telsa involved in a serious accident" While make/model of other accidents is never mentioned in other accidents even when there's a fatality.
Comparing Trevor Milton to Elon Musk is also wild. I still vividly remember the Tesla short seller crowd praising Milton as a genius while declaring Elon as a charlatan.
> "The entire infotainment system is a HTML 5 super computer," Milton said. "That's the standard language for computer programmers around the world, so using it let's us build our own chips. And HTML 5 is very secure. Every component is linked on the data network, all speaking the same language. It's not a bunch of separate systems that somehow still manage to communicate."
- Trevor Milton
Source: https://www.truckinginfo.com/330475/whats-behind-the-grille-...
Isn't it illegal to overstate official EPA results? Maybe I'm missing something here.
Moreover, this affects ALL 2024 model year battery electric vehicles. There is a 6-page document here that explains it:
https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=55592&fla...
This was enacted in 2022 but goes into effect this year:
This new policy is applicable to new testing for 2024 model year and later vehicles. It may be applied to new testing for 2023 model year vehicles. *Vehicles utilizing carry-over data may continue to use data generated under previous policy* for as long as the tests are valid (i.e., no changes to the vehicle requiring new MPGe/range testing are required). *Manufacturers who add a new configuration to a test group for 2024 and later must present new test results using this policy*, but existing data can still be used if it is representative".
The headline is being purposefully misleading. There is no ‘lie’ that is ‘exposed’ in here, just an update.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V838-8276.PDF