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Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by edmundsauto on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:45PM (#20718279)
Do we have accurate breathalyzers for alcohol? AFAIK, the manufacturers aggressively resist requirements to publish their source code or calibrations for testing. Also, AIUI, the devices require recalibration for accuracy, and it's not clear that police stations perform such maintenance.

No idea how rampant this is, every system will have flaws. But I question whether we can use the alcohol breathalyzer example without acknowledging there are significant unanswered questions w/r/t accuracy.

Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by Tade0 on Friday August 16, 2019 @06:12PM (#20720215)
A friend of a friend works at a facility which calibrates + certifies police breathalysers and by his account below 0,015% BAC the result is garbage, so some countries choose to set the limit at 0,02% which is enough for the devices to indicate properly most of the time.
Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by ac29 on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:58PM (#20718445)
If breathalyzers were inaccurate, uncalibrated, or unmaintained it would be trivial to get any conviction relying on their measurements thrown out.
Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by edmundsauto on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:12PM (#20718599)
Only if you're allowed to test the devices in question, and the courts believe your experts over the manufacturers.

This doesn't prove my point, but manufacturers do aggressively fight against researchers identifying flaws in their products. Given the high stakes (+ the fact this isn't a security issue, really), it seems like a major smell to me.

There are reports out there of people convicted, who are blocked from examining the devices used as the primary piece of evidence against them.

Also, after years of effort to discredit breathalyzer results, convictions ARE being overturned regularly.

NJ overturns > 27k convictions because of breathalyzer issues - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/nyregion/nj-dwi-convictio...

MS judge suspends admission of breathalyzer evidence -- https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/10/breathalyzers-tempor...

More relevant info - https://www.zdnet.com/article/draeger-breathalyzer-breath-te...

Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by jayd16 on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:14PM (#20718633)
Nothing about the court system is trivial.
Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by fragmede on Friday August 16, 2019 @05:06PM (#20719708)
Re:Launch HN: SannTek (YC S19) – Breathalyzer for Cannabis by monocasa on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:08PM (#20718554)
What makes you say that?