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Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by pas on Friday August 16, 2019 @06:48AM (#20713827)
A lot of people already don't buy shit. At all.

I mean after about a decade I finally gave in and bought a used TV (instead of using a PC monitor). I already don't fly to useless tech conferences, and work remotely (so no mindless daily commute).

And eventually when the e-charger network will become widespread enough around here, I guess, I'll buy a used EV instead of the current car, because cities can't ban these smoke machines fast enough.

And when the choice is presented I already buy local stuff.

But.. this is a luxury for me/us, because of the enormous income inequality bonus of IT/tech.

Those who already live on the edge won't pick the local things, they will pick the cheapest one. And the way to make the GHG-friendly stuff cheap is to tax the shit out of the GHG-positive things.

And that unfortunately seems like a pretty hard challenge, thanks to our wonderful society favoring chauvinists rhetoric, trade wars, nationalist triades, and other bullshit.

So, yes, in terms of the big picture EVs don't matter much, but without even presenting an alternative, it'll be quite impossible to persuade the other half of society.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by navigatesol on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:42AM (#20714568)
>And the way to make the GHG-friendly stuff cheap is to tax the shit out of the GHG-positive things.

Making everything more expensive is a political dead-end, and would exacerbate income inequality.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by pas on Friday August 16, 2019 @09:51AM (#20715100)
Who said everything?

Taxing stuff that comes from large scale industrial destruction of the environment is completely different than everything.

Plus all the carbon tax schemes start with direct rebates to the tax payers in equal parts, so those who consume more get less back than those who don't.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by yellowapple on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:34AM (#20716195)
Which is why you'd want to combine the tax with a subsidy for "clean" products (financed by those very same taxes, perhaps).
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by oftenwrong on Friday August 16, 2019 @09:29AM (#20714924)
Not if it is revenue-neutral.