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Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by lawlessone on Friday August 16, 2019 @06:16AM (#20713692)
Electric vehicles would make a huge difference to me and many others that suffer from asthma.

Moving the emissions away from the vehicles , away from city centres and roads to the factories and power stations where they can be controlled would save thousands of lives.

Our children will look at us how we look at people during the industrial revolution. And a gradual change is better than no change at all.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by growlist on Friday August 16, 2019 @07:26AM (#20714047)
Exhaust emissions are only part of the air pollution problem - brake discs and tyres contribute around 50%, as I recall.

Depressing! But we need lighter vehicles all round, and less travelling in general.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by r00fus on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:25AM (#20714433)
Cite needed. Also types of pollution matter. Do brakes & tires contribute to climate change or to the PM2.5?

Yes we need to move towards more sustainable transport (mass transit) and reduce the overall load but EVs don’t hamper this movement.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by growlist on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:44AM (#20714584)
Agreed, it's a complex topic. Just pointing out that EVs alone won't solve air pollution from transport.

https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/assets/documents/reports/cat09/1...

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by NullPrefix on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:23AM (#20714407)
>brake discs

Regenerative braking does not have this problem. Although the tyre problem remain.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by rootusrootus on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:03AM (#20715850)
Tires are a far more significant pollution source than brakes.
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by WorldMaker on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:12PM (#20717889)
But still a far less significant pollution source than diesel (especially) and gas exhaust.
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by growlist on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:44AM (#20714593)
Though the extra weight of the regenerative system has to be taken into account.
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by srfilipek on Friday August 16, 2019 @09:01AM (#20714716)
Tesla's brake pads for the Model 3 are scheduled for replacement after 250,000 miles of use (according to tesla rep. I spoke to).

No, I did not mistype that.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by whenchamenia on Friday August 16, 2019 @09:42AM (#20715021)
Just checked mine on my honda with 200,000 miles. Fronts were a bit low, so I replaced them, rears were still about at half wear. Tesla is no magic beast in this reguard. The secret is a manual transmission.
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by srfilipek on Friday August 16, 2019 @10:07AM (#20715270)
If I drove my manual better, I could probably achieve that, but spirited driving made me replace everything twice over in 100k miles, with a third needed soon. :(
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by NullPrefix on Friday August 16, 2019 @10:49AM (#20715673)
You pay twice everytime you brake. Once for the gas and then for the brakes too.
Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by oftenwrong on Friday August 16, 2019 @09:33AM (#20714956)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/tripping/wp/2018/03/27/c...

>Researchers at Johns Hopkins University and other institutions who studied Stockholm’s congestion-pricing scheme found that the policy cut air pollution in the city center and reduced childhood asthma cases by nearly 50 percent.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by acd on Friday August 16, 2019 @06:29AM (#20713747)
Very true many countries in Europe has shifted to diesels due to lower co2 but they make the air dirty. Dirty air is bad for asthmatics.

Hybrid gasoline/biogas can be as co2 efficient as diesel if not more with a lot cleaner tail pipe air. Almost zero local emission with 10kw batteries and upwards.

Re:The electric car as a talisman of false hope by baud147258 on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:53AM (#20714656)
The shift to diesel was also caused by a lower price of gas and a lower consumption for medium and long distances.