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Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by CaliforniaKarl on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @06:46PM (#20700805)
I think this should be marked [2015], as the video included on the site was uploaded in 2015.

But still, this is really cool! I also didn't know that the ear has a "self-defense" mechanism against loud noise. I wonder how that mechanism interacts with things like headphone audio being played at high volumes. Does the mechanism eventually wear out? How does that affect people who do sound effects/mixing/mastering for a living?

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by arkades on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @06:52PM (#20700848)
The mechanism is specifically: a muscle (stapedius) attached to one of the bones of the inner ear (stapes) pulls it away, effectively breaking the sound conduction pathway.

This mechanism does not wear out. It can, however, be disrupted by damage to the muscle in question, or to the nerve innervating that muscle, or the portion of brain controlling that nerve.

However, you can still conduct sound without the stapes in place. It’s less effective - that’s why the bones of the inner ear are there at all - but in loud settings, and certainly in conditions where you can conduct sound effectively to the bones of the skull (eg, headphones), you can still pass enough sound to the cochlea to damage your hair cells.

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by outworlder on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @07:15PM (#20700984)
> Does the mechanism eventually wear out?

I hope not, because I have been able to control the muscle voluntarily and it is still works after almost four decades.

It doesn't go off by itself all the time though. It's more for sudden loud noise, I don't think it works at all for sustained loud noises.

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by MrEldritch on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @07:25PM (#20701047)
>I hope not, because I have been able to control the muscle voluntarily and it is still works after almost four decades.

Oh, is that how the brain rumblies thingy works? Huh, I never realized most people couldn't do that.

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by xamuel on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @08:36PM (#20701476)
There's a subreddit for this ability: https://old.reddit.com/r/earrumblersassemble/
Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by tmacro on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @07:35PM (#20701119)
I realized it was rare, but I've never been able to explain what I'm doing to other people. Now I finally know!
Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by nsxwolf on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @09:00PM (#20701638)
Whoah! I thought everyone could do this!
Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by taneq on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @08:38PM (#20701493)
> It's more for sudden loud noise, I don't think it works at all for sustained loud noises.

Yeah, it’s for when your brain thinks there might be a loud noise. I, too, was surprised when I found out that being able to deliberately tense it wasn’t ‘normal’.

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by hunter2_ on Thursday August 15, 2019 @12:53AM (#20702678)
It's not normal? Not sure about that.
Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by taneq on Thursday August 15, 2019 @12:59AM (#20702705)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_tympani_muscle#Voluntar...

"Some individuals can voluntarily produce this rumbling sound by contracting the tensor tympani muscle of the middle ear." (Emphasis mine.)

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by hunter2_ on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:38AM (#20712704)
"Some individuals can voluntarily produce this rumbling sound by contracting the tensor tympani muscle of the middle ear. The rumbling sound can also be heard when the neck or jaw muscles are highly tensed as when yawning deeply."

That is: there are 2 methods. The first method only "some...can" and the second method "[all people] can". The second method seems to be exactly what I voluntarily do; unfortunately the second method's description omits mention of voluntariness ("as when" means that yawning is not mandatory) though. Thus, the "all people" method and doing it voluntarily might overlap much of the time.

Aside: I also have a hardly-traumatic "ear popping" (I say it that way because pressure-caused popping is called barotrauma) as a very early precursor to my voluntary rumbling. I wonder how typical that is...

Re:Mercedes-Benz pre-safe sound by adrianN on Thursday August 15, 2019 @04:24AM (#20703508)
I wonder whether deliberate ear-rumbling trains the muscle sufficiently to improve the protection.