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Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by matthewowen on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:34PM (#20698547)
This seems like a misleading headline: as far as I understand it you can still have the same effect: they've just made it an additional property of private groups instead of a whole separate category.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by sebazzz on Thursday August 15, 2019 @01:26AM (#20702811)
It is obviously clickbait albeit the title being technically correct. I would not have clicked it if the title mentioned the access level was being renamed.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by javagram on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:33PM (#20698533)
So the difference is that they are renaming secret to private to reflect that they will be scanning the content of groups to review for content?

“the company has built a new tool called Group Quality, which scans all groups for content that breaks the platform's community standards — regardless of privacy settings”

Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by bcherny on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:49PM (#20698694)
I think the goal of renaming is to make it easier for people to understand. So when you post/comment in a group, you know exactly who will see it.

Not sure why Group Quality was included in this PR.

Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by papln on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:45PM (#20698653)
If I read correctly, then a correct headline would be "Facebook is adding non-discoverable Public groups", renaming Secret/Closed groups,and getting rid of nothing.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by heavymark on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @03:51PM (#20699283)
Yes, people here know click bait titles work which is why we are all here reading this and commenting on it.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by dymk on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:40PM (#20698609)
Misleading, but it's BuzzFeed, so what do you expect.

Facebook is essentially changing Groups so instead of 3 categories with inherent discoverability rules (Public (find via search), Private (find via search), Secret (can not find via search)), they're separating the concerns of "Can non-members view posts?" and "Can non-members find this group via search?"

So this is actually now more flexible!

Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by lclarkmichalek on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:31PM (#20698517)
> Group admins will have the option to have public or private groups and also be able to toggle whether the group is visible in search results.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by btxxa on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:33PM (#20698531)
They're basically renaming the options, but they will remain. Great clickbait, Buzzfeed! Never change.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by parliament32 on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:35PM (#20698557)
It's literally the same thing, just one setting for Public/Private, and a second for Visible/Not. Title is super clickbaity, they're not getting rid of anything.

I thought buzzfeednews was supposed to be better than classic buzzfeed, but I see they're really not.

Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by unethical_ban on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:44PM (#20698647)
Clickbait trash title. Makes it sound like there will be no privacy on groups, perhaps in response to something.

They are renaming them with the same functionality, broken into two toggles.

Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by dfeojm-zlib on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:34PM (#20698549)
I tried FB in early ~2000's because I had a @stanford email, but after a coworker's wife started tagging people and editorializing randomly, it was clearly more of a liability than value. I had emptied details and most content but kept for some old photos, but finally migrated and purged it this year because it's basically a vehicle of surprise privacy monetization to make Wall St. happy. If a social media service instead were instead subscriber- and donation-supported, it wouldn't develop such perverse incentives to sell-out its users to stay afloat.
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by cstejerean on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:37PM (#20698577)
Good for you. What does it have to do with the story?
Re:Facebook Is Getting Rid of “Secret” or “Closed” Groups by dfeojm-zlib on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @02:39PM (#20698608)
Facebook's accumulation of a pattern of making major, surprise changes that are mostly about benefiting money-making, directly or indirectly. Super popular but seemingly more and more terrible as time goes on.