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Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by reaperducer on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:16AM (#20676171)
the US is a bit shy about national IDs for vague reasons that seem loosely associated with anti-authoritarian reasons and distrust of government.

It's called "history." And as they say, those who don't learn from it are doomed to repeat it.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by roywiggins on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:59AM (#20676638)
There's really no evidence that the USG doesn't already have everything it needs to oppress $GROUP if it wants to.

No federal IDs did absolutely nothing to inhibit Japanese internment. The federal government has vast powers already.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by Wowfunhappy on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:53AM (#20676560)
But aren't social security numbers effectively being used as national IDs right now? The fact that that they suck just makes fraud easier.

I don't see how modern society can function without some form of universal authentication. Alternately, if you live in a forest and don't need or want to participate in the financial system, I'm all for making a hypothetical national ID opt-in.

Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by rtkwe on Monday August 12, 2019 @01:17PM (#20677549)
SSNs aren't really an ID they're an ID number, without looking at other databases and traces left there's only really a name associated with each and no biometric data so there's no real way to confirm that the person you're looking at is actually the person assigned XXX-XX-XXXX.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by bigwavedave on Monday August 12, 2019 @03:52PM (#20679252)
Which is what makes it such a huge problem- they're treated as ID's whether they're supposed to or not. Regardless of original intent, regardless of what you or the government or anyone else says, they are treated as ID's by the vast majority of business and organizations. That's the whole point of this discussion and why it's such a problem.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by toomuchtodo on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:31AM (#20676327)
States give access to their driver's license databases to federal authorities. Any safety you perceive due to the lack of a national ID system is an illusion.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by criddell on Monday August 12, 2019 @12:02PM (#20676669)
A lot of opposition to national IDs is based in religion.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by UnFleshedOne on Monday August 12, 2019 @01:10PM (#20677468)
Funny thing is, in Canada, SSN analog is called SIN.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by goodcanadian on Monday August 12, 2019 @02:51PM (#20678588)
Social Insurance Number, for the curious.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by souterrain on Monday August 12, 2019 @12:18PM (#20676842)
I was unaware that King George III was such a proponent of national ID cards.
Re:A Bloomberg reporter’s account of trying to get back his ... by ceejayoz on Monday August 12, 2019 @11:31AM (#20676329)
Those who over-apply historical lessons in an incorrect context may serve as a future historical lesson in mistakes made, though.