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Re:Python Is Eating the World by wasnthere on Monday August 12, 2019 @06:20AM (#20674082)
saddened to see this poorly constructed comment berating python at the top of this thread. the author seems to have some personal issues with the language given the generally frustrated tone of the comment. the entire comment could have just been 1 line "We need official support for a modern package management system, from the Python org itself." which would be consumed as constructive feedback by all readers with the right context. but somehow the author chooses to "vent" adding unnecessary drama to something that does not get in the way of writing high quality production grade python apps (general purpose, web, ai or otherwise)

there is no language that is devoid of shortcomings - so to any new (<3 yrs exp) python users, please ignore the above comment entirely as it has no bearing on anything practical that you are doing/will do. and all experienced python users know that there are ways to work around the shortcomings listed here and beyond.

this is my psa for the python community!

Re:Python Is Eating the World by saagarjha on Monday August 12, 2019 @07:49AM (#20674524)
> the entire comment could have just been 1 line "We need official support for a modern package management system, from the Python org itself."

I personally would consider this to be a strictly worse comment because it does not go into detail about what’s lacking like the parent comment does.

Re:Python Is Eating the World by imtringued on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:23AM (#20674713)
Package management isn't a personal issue. Deploying python applications alongside their dependencies is far more difficult than it needs to be.

>there is no language that is devoid of shortcomings

So we should just silence all criticism like a dictatorship?

>as it has no bearing on anything practical that you are doing/will do.

Are you saying no python user has to deploy their application ever? If that's what you really mean then your comment is just pure trolling.

Re:Python Is Eating the World by Chris2048 on Monday August 12, 2019 @07:58AM (#20674566)
> the author seems to have some personal issues with the language given the generally frustrated tone of the comment

What "personal issues" do you think the author has? The frustrated tone comes from the frustrations the author explicitly outlines; unless you think this shouldn't be so, you are turning this into an ad-hom.

> the entire comment could have just been 1 line "We need official support for a modern package management system, from the Python org itself."

Why? because you don't appreciate the detail on why we need such a thing? These issues certainly get in the way of producing production apps; not in the sense that they make it impossible, but they make the process harder and slower than it needs to be.

Re:Python Is Eating the World by octocop on Monday August 12, 2019 @09:25AM (#20675170)
How about you address what was invalid in the comment instead of asking to ignore it
Re:Python Is Eating the World by rezeroed on Monday August 12, 2019 @08:21AM (#20674698)
I actually quite liked that post. I use python maybe once a year or less, and don't enjoy the experience. That post distinguished some of the details which in my rare usage I see simply as a gloopy mess.
Re:Python Is Eating the World by void445be54d48a on Monday August 12, 2019 @09:54AM (#20675399)
Once again python is a great language, but the language itself is not the core issue with python