Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by Throwaway_8545 on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:46PM
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From what I have gathered, it is pretty normal in America/English to call 16 years old "children" (although Guardian is from the UK), in contrast to Germany/German, where apparently they normally wouldn't be called "Kinder" but "Jugendliche". So maybe it is just a linguistic or cultural difference to your country.
Edit: I think it is also a method to differentiate K-12 schools from higher education. Although "college kids" does also appear to be used often in America (don't know about the UK). I am not sure whether "kid" and "child" can refer to different age groups.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by kerng on Friday August 09, 2019 @03:37PM
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Article should use the word teenager, not children - seems misleading.
In many countries the legal age to work is 14 or 15.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by rasz on Friday August 09, 2019 @07:43PM
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This is also age of consent in many European countries.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by rayiner on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:31PM
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It’s newspeak. They’re “children” if you’re talking about work or being held responsible for their actions. They’re “independent young adults” if you’re talking about sex, drugs, or freedom to make bad and expensive life decisions.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by mobilemidget on Friday August 09, 2019 @04:32PM
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More interesting in my opinion than stocking the shelves at the supermarket.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by Cenk on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:19PM
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Are they in school?
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by inxdz on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:21PM
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That's what happens with manipulative things, they don't necessarily have to be wrong, but they are still manipulative. Go to Google Images, search for "schoolchildren", and tell me if any of those children look 16.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by seanmcdirmid on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:23PM
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They are in a trade school, the work was setup by the school (and was probably “required”) as is common practice in China (whether that is a moral thing or not).
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by inxdz on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:24PM
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Which is also legal in some places of Europe, it's called "practicing" or whatever.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by seanmcdirmid on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:30PM
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I think the system in Europe is more about practicing skilled trade than just doing unskilled factory work. If this story was about kids apprenticing to be plumbers, then I think there would be much less outrage.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by dragonelite on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:38PM
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Depends on the course, same practical internship are pretty much of the level of unskilled work. Still not okay without at least a decent pay if you ask me.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by seanmcdirmid on Friday August 09, 2019 @02:45PM
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I don’t think 16 and a half kuai is very decent, but these kids are mostly from rural areas so it might seem like a good deal to them.
Re:Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon ...
by tluyben2 on Friday August 09, 2019 @05:48PM
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I do not know how it is now, but when I worked with companies doing apprenticeships for electricians in the Netherlands a while ago, I noticed most of them (the “children”) did unskilled or no work at all and did not care because the company signed off on their work so they would graduate.
16 is a legal age to work in many places of Europe, including my very own country. What exactly am I missing here?
Also isn't it a bit manipulative to call a 16 year old teenager a "schoolchild"?