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Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by ocdtrekkie on Thursday August 08, 2019 @11:31AM (#20645449)
Specifically, you should realize anything that companies say is done with "AI" is probably in some part done by poorly paid contractors. And not always on the analysis end, for example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johanmoreno/2019/05/28/25-of-go...

There's something incredibly dystopian by using humans as part of a process you literally tell people is entirely machines.

Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by _Understated_ on Thursday August 08, 2019 @12:29PM (#20645969)
Haha, I never realised it was that immature.

As an aside: Being a tech I have been asked numerous times by non-techs "What actually is AI?"

I usually answer "a lot of if-statements" :)

Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by xthestreams on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:39PM (#20646653)
AI researcher here. While industry doesn't usually find the need for huge complex models, I don't think your statement is fair, nor accurate. Can you provide some examples of AI tech that in your opinion is "a lot of if statements"?
Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by google2342 on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:45PM (#20646733)
How do you expect someone to justify a statement that's not true? I suppose you could say that it's a fair characterization of a basic decision tree but that doesn't describe modern ML methods.
Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by logn on Thursday August 08, 2019 @06:52PM (#20649713)
The commenter is just referring to the nature of neural networks, a pile of weights and thresholds that you could conceivably write out as a maniacal mess of deeply nested if-statements.
Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by _Understated_ on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:47PM (#20646744)
If you're meaning me, I probably should've ended my comment with /s

I was making a joke :)

Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by google2342 on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:05PM (#20646300)
That's not a fair characterization. These contractors are mostly used for quality assurance. Once you've trained your model (which is not just if statements), you might you send a few thousand examples to raters to judge the true quality of your model.
Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by ocdtrekkie on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:45PM (#20646732)
It is probably something akin to "a lot of if-statements generated by an automated system that we neither understand nor can explain, which seems to more or less output results we wanted".
Re:Microsoft Contractors Are Listening to Some Skype Calls by Frondo on Thursday August 08, 2019 @03:23PM (#20647697)
This reminds me of the great first novel of Russian author Victor Pelevin, Omon Ra. The protagonist joins the Soviet space program (fully automated moon exploration!) and

[spoilers ahead]

learns that the full automation is physical labor by cosmonauts at every stage of the process. No spoilers about the end, it's even better.