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Re:Battery-Powered Ships Next Up in Battle to Tackle Emissions by nradov on Thursday August 08, 2019 @02:54AM (#20642403)
New fission reactor technology won't change anything. Only the US Navy has a good safety record with nuclear vessels; the Soviet / Russian Navy has had multiple serious accidents with sinkings and radiation releases. And the only way the US Navy succeeded was by using a huge amount of resources under tight top-down control. None of that is possible in the merchant fleet. Plus the Navy has built in armed security forces. Any modern nuclear merchant vessel would need armed, trusted security guards to protect against terrorist attacks (just like nuclear plants ashore).

In short, nuclear powered merchant ships are never going to happen regardless of the potential advantages.

Re:Battery-Powered Ships Next Up in Battle to Tackle Emissions by Accujack on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:20PM (#20646442)
Both navies have had incidents where nuclear powered submarines sank. That's the nature of the military, they tend to go places other ships don't.

> the only way the US Navy succeeded was by using a huge amount of resources under tight top-down control.

Everything in the military is done with tight top down control for the most part. That's not why it succeeded, though. The military is the only organization that did it since it's the only organization for which nuclear wasn't constrained by the need for profit.

There was a demonstration nuclear cargo vessel built that operated for four years, but they weren't mass produced and so weren't economically viable when oil was cheap.

However, if you combine the need for lowered emissions with the higher modern price of oil, larger scale production of nuclear civilian vessels begins to make some economic sense.

This is aided also by the fact that modern reactors could be designed to be lower cost to operate.

Security wise, nuclear powered vessels would be less vulnerable than oil powered vessels presently are because they'd be at least as fast and would need refueling less often.

They would not be a more attractive target for terrorists than other ships despite nuclear propulsion, because the reactors can be designed to be tamper proof, meaning the only thing a terrorist in possession of a nuclear ship can do is sink it with little resulting fear or hardship for the country they are trying to affect. Water blocks radiation very effectively, and ships with sunken nuclear reactors don't spread radiation around, they contain it.

Re:Battery-Powered Ships Next Up in Battle to Tackle Emissions by nradov on Friday August 09, 2019 @12:08PM (#20655625)
The security risks are primarily in port, plus insider threats. Do you really think that most nations would ever allow nuclear powered merchant vessels crewed by random foreigners to enter their ports? Regardless of the potential benefits it's just completely unrealistic in the post 9/11 world.
Re:Battery-Powered Ships Next Up in Battle to Tackle Emissions by jandrese on Friday August 09, 2019 @12:45PM (#20656024)
Theoretically one of those hypothetical sealed thorium reactor designs might be suitable and safe enough for a merchant ship, but it's a hard thing to sell while oil is still cheap.

Having one of these ships sink is not as terrible as you might think. Water is an excellent moderator and these very heavy elements will tend to stay on the ocean floor. There's a reason we store nuclear waste in big swimming pools.