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Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by IshKebab on Monday August 05, 2019 @04:37AM (#20612371)
I think the popularity of Electron has shown that is actually isn't very important to users to use native controls.

Also on Desktop, macOS is the only one that even has a single official "native" toolkit.

Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by aikinai on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:36AM (#20612645)
Electron is popular with developers, not users.
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by thiht on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:52AM (#20612987)
Any data backing that up? Don't forget HN users are a bubble. I'm actually pretty sure standard users don't even notice a difference between Electron and native apps. I for one sometimes prefer Electron apps over badly designed and ugly native apps.
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by moksly on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:01AM (#20612748)
Then why are Discord and Visual Studio Code both so popular and well liked by their users?
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by dgellow on Monday August 05, 2019 @09:29AM (#20613998)
Because they provide features their users care about. Not because of their choice of framework.
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by dragonwriter on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:14PM (#20619674)
Proving that features are important, native controls...not so much.
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by obliviousonions on Monday August 05, 2019 @11:24AM (#20614892)
UWP is actually pretty easy to use and looks great & native on Windows.
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by trnglina on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @01:34PM (#20627462)
UWP is hardly consistent. Just as a quick example, the context menu in the start menu is slightly different from the context menu for the task bar, which are both very different from the context menu(s!) which appear in the Windows Mail app. Or how the context menu in the start menu can exit the bounds of the start menu, but most popups/menus in UWP apps are fully bound to their parents.
Re:Flutter looks good, but is painful by paulddraper on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:46PM (#20619387)
Yes Windows framework #935 has actually turned out to be pretty good.