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Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by dangxiaopin on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:41AM (#20612082)
According to Cloudflare's logic, ISPs should have stopped peering with Facebook after NZ shooter livestreamed there.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by q3k on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:17AM (#20612562)
Facebook implemented automation to ban any reposts of the NZ footage. Facebook routinely bans extremists groups.

8ch actively caters to white supremacists, by letting /pol/ be the second largest board there and not be actively moderated to combat hate speech. 8ch administrators did nothing to prevent hate speech from becoming a large chunk of their discourse. As such, people were looking towards 8ch's providers to do something about this, as it has been the case on the Internet since forever (ISP not reacting to abuse requests concerning their customers? Okay, we have to contact their upstreams then).

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by dangxiaopin on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:32AM (#20612626)
Oh so therefore, 8chan was deplatformed not in connection with this manifesto then, but due to their past record of not banning bad speech prior to this crime?
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by q3k on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:44AM (#20612677)
I don't know. I assume this can be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by dangxiaopin on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:47AM (#20612691)
And I assume you are a "net neutrality" advocate at the same time?
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by toyg on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:46AM (#20612687)
They are not exclusive - this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by cryptonector on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:45AM (#20612105)
Perhaps only if commenters glorified it? I'm sure you can find people to do that on FB or anywhere else, and it may take time to moderate such commentary. But no one would deplatform FB or Twitter -- they're too big. This approach means we have a powerful dynamic in place to limit the reach of any social media that isn't already "too big to deplatform".
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by michannne on Monday August 05, 2019 @08:26AM (#20613543)
>they're too big

And therein lies the problem. This sort of behavior is tolerated in Facebook and Twitter simply because they are "large" by some random metric. If FB or Twitter decides one day to mass censor a certain type of content, it somehow isn't a big deal because they are "large"

Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by yhamv on Monday August 05, 2019 @04:37AM (#20612373)
In fact Facebook said they didn't remove the nz shooter livestream because nobody bothered to report it until very late
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by dangxiaopin on Monday August 05, 2019 @04:46AM (#20612422)
I would argue that the actual graphic livestream of a real mass murder is a much much more toxic and dangerous material than any theoretical manifesto. It's not even in the same league. But Facebook is too big to be dropped as a customer!
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by ElCapitanMarkla on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:15AM (#20612813)
Is Facebook a customer? I thought they had their own network?
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by cryptonector on Monday August 05, 2019 @10:24AM (#20614442)
Maybe not, but others could refuse to peer with them.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by yhamv on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:21AM (#20612840)
Pretty sure they are customers of several CDNs.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan by fgdaniels on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:14AM (#20612544)
Please, as if Facebook would be taken down when a few pubescent mongoloids "glorified violence".

Glorification is a matter of free speech, because it is an expression of opinion. That you find it distasteful is fine, using that as a weapon is not.

Either way, Facebook won't be held accountable because it's funded by large investment funds, and HN won't complain because they're in bed together.

The "too big" argument is not a moral argument, that just says "we have money invested in it". If that's acceptable to you you have no morality.