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Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by eco on Saturday August 03, 2019 @12:25AM (#20598659)
I just ordered a MyQ garage door hub from Amazon Warehouse (listed as missing or damaged original packaging). When I opened it up it felt a little off. The protective film on the device had obviously been removed and reattached and nothing fit very well in the designated slots in the packaging. The device itself had faint scratches and dust on it.

I decided to check the model number and sure enough, it was the previous model. Someone had obviously ordered the new model (presumably because the new one gained support for Apple HomeKit) then stuffed their old one in the box and done a refund through Amazon.

Amazon handled it fine and I got a replacement that was correct but now I'm pretty skeptical of how Amazon processes the returned items they place up for sale again.

Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by rahimnathwani on Saturday August 03, 2019 @12:42AM (#20598715)
I had a similar experience with an expensive Toto toilet seat from Amazon Warehouse Deals.

When it arrived, it was clear the packaging had been opened (which I expected), but:

- the toilet seat had signs of handling

- it didn't work when installed

- the previous purchasers return note was in the box. IIRC they said the reason for return was that they changed their mind about wanting it

My guess is that they bought a replacement on Amazon, and fraudulently sent back their old non-functioning one in the new packaging.

Amazon gave me a refund without fuss.

Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by muzika on Saturday August 03, 2019 @12:33AM (#20598688)
I buy many retuned items from Amazon warehouse. I find that about 5% of them are like this - people put either their old item or some other junk back in the box. Just happened again 2 days ago with a stroller my wife bought.
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by irrational on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:03AM (#20598771)
Similar experience with a sawhorse. It was clearly a used item when I opened it. I got a replacement no problem, how is it more cost effective to pay shipping twice than to pay someone to check it once?
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by JakeTheAndroid on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:08AM (#20598790)
The people that process the returns make next to nothing and run off a script of yes/no and anything weird gets escalated.

A Q/A person to validate a range of products for authenticity (or at least more so than now) likely costs more per hour.

They have their supply chain so efficient, it's likely very cheap for them to move physical items across the globe.

Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by ldoughty on Saturday August 03, 2019 @07:58AM (#20599996)
It would cost them $20/hr per validator (burdened).

If only 5 items an hour are bad returns, that's $4 per item identified.

It's likely cheaper to have you, the customer, do the valuation because you might not even realize the issues... And if you do, you might be too lazy to return it. Which further let's the value of hitting a validator.. so the employee would now be to probably find twice as many bad returns per hour for the company to break even.

Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by belltaco on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:29AM (#20598831)
Depends on the rate of the fraud. If, for example, 2 out of 10,000 returns are fraudulent, probably it costs lesser to process 2 replacements than check 10,000 items.
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by empath75 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @06:40AM (#20599703)
We got a child seat cover with a broken zipper and someone else’s name written on the tag.
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by mk89 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @02:05AM (#20598940)
Same here. TV from Amazon warehouse; no remote control. Who knows! Maybe the person needed just the 30$ remote :)
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by Svoka on Saturday August 03, 2019 @08:07PM (#20603573)
This is why we can’t have nice things. it’s upsetting that we have to build rules and laws around “worst” behaviors.
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by dfcmt on Saturday August 03, 2019 @03:32AM (#20599143)
This reminds me of a story I read once of a guy who bought a 1000€ GPU from Amazon and got a 100€ GPU instead, obviously from a return. When he got to return it to get his 1000€ back, he was told that he had sent the wrong GPU, that it had been destroyed by them (like you would shred a sheet of paper) and asking for the right card to be sent to them.
Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by djitz on Saturday August 03, 2019 @06:44PM (#20603190)
Something similar happened to me when I was a teenager. I bought a 3dfx Voodoo card from Best Buy the day it came out and when I got home, it had a parallel printer port card in the box. After several arguments with managers went nowhere and I finally got a hold of the regional manager and got a replacement.

I thought the money I saved for so many months was lost. But alas, I was finally playing Quake deathmatch in glorious 3D after some heartache.

Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by zelon88 on Sunday August 04, 2019 @11:54AM (#20607246)
When I was a kid I had a family member who would perform these "swappy swaps" that you were the victim of.

He would go out and buy a new card, gently open the wrapper so that it could be melted back on with a heat gun, remove the card, replace it with something of similar weight, and reseal the package with a heat gun.

One time I ruined the wrapper on him and he had to take the item to Blockbuster. He made up some BS about it being a birthday gift that the wrong child opened and he needed to use the cellophane machine. It didn't work, and Best Buy wouldn't accept his return. That was one of the last times I saw him use that trick.

I also saw him sign up for a store credit card using someone else's social security information. His plan was to get approved, buy a TV, and then shred the card. Luckily for whoever SSN that was; their credit got denied on the application and he was unable to steal a TV.

Sorry to hear your Best Buy horror story, or to think that I saw that stuff go down. On the bright side my family member no longer engages in those types of transactions and mostly flies straight these days.

Re:Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old's re... by djitz on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:15AM (#20611962)
Oh, that’s interesting. Back then, I was sure that an employee made the switch because of just how flawless the packaging looked.

No judgement here. Pretty much everyone has done or is related to someone who does some sort of crappy thing(s).

“Swappy swaps” LOL