Re:EU Court of Justice ruling may spell the death of social ...
by krageon on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @05:41AM
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As much as I hate to say this, a case could be made that recaptcha provides a valuable service in exchange for this data without which the service could not work well or would be significantly degraded.
Re:EU Court of Justice ruling may spell the death of social ...
by xfitm3 on Monday July 29, 2019 @04:13PM
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> Online websites that embed a Facebook Like button are responsible for the data they send to Facebook and liable for the same penalties under EU data protection laws, the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ) said in an opinion published today.
While I won't miss social share buttons I don't agree with this heavy handed opinion. Facebook should responsible for the data they collect – not websites which use their widget. Safe harbor laws need to be strengthened.
Re:EU Court of Justice ruling may spell the death of social ...
by M2Ys4U on Monday July 29, 2019 @04:46PM
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The website operator is deciding what data is sent to Facebook my implementing the button.
How are they not a (joint) data controller in that respect?
BTW, the article didn't actually spell this out, but the website operator's "responsibility is, however, limited to the operation or the set of personal data processing operations for which it actually determines the purposes and means, namely the collection and communication by transmission of the data in question." (translated using Google Translate from the French-language version of the judgment)
Re:EU Court of Justice ruling may spell the death of social ...
by onetimemanytime on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:02PM
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>>Facebook should responsible for the data they collect – not websites which use their widget. Safe harbor laws need to be strengthened.
In another POV: you are sending users and their data to FB by them using the share button you added to your site. YOU. The fact that FB is doing the same in violating the laws is separate. Now FB will create a new button
From the press release: The consequence of embedding that button appears to be that when a visitor consults the website of Fashion ID, that visitor’s personal data are transmitted to Facebook Ireland. It seems that that
transmission occurs without that visitor being aware of it and regardless of whether or not he or
she is a member of the social network Facebook or has clicked on the ‘Like’ button.
Re:EU Court of Justice ruling may spell the death of social ...
by rlpb on Monday July 29, 2019 @07:37PM
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I'm not convinced about the editorialized "may spell the death". It just means that if Facebook wants their Like buttons to be used by companies serving the EU, they will need to take steps that those companies are confident that they obey the law. Assuming that Facebook benefit from the arrangement, why wouldn't they do this?
Re:EU Court of Justice ruling may spell the death of social ...
by tastroder on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:07PM
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fyi: while the English translation is not available yet, you can find other languages you might be familiar with at [1], or browse through the crude Google translation from French at [2].
That would be a relief.
I'm guessing because they wanted to get something out before the official English-language translation of the judgment has been published.
FWIW, the CJEU's judgment is binding.[1] It's the highest court in the EU and has the final say on how to interpret EU law.
[0] https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/201...
[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM... - "Preliminary rulings are binding both on the referring court and on all courts in EU countries."
While I won't miss social share buttons I don't agree with this heavy handed opinion. Facebook should responsible for the data they collect – not websites which use their widget. Safe harbor laws need to be strengthened.
How are they not a (joint) data controller in that respect?
BTW, the article didn't actually spell this out, but the website operator's "responsibility is, however, limited to the operation or the set of personal data processing operations for which it actually determines the purposes and means, namely the collection and communication by transmission of the data in question." (translated using Google Translate from the French-language version of the judgment)
In another POV: you are sending users and their data to FB by them using the share button you added to your site. YOU. The fact that FB is doing the same in violating the laws is separate. Now FB will create a new button
From the press release: The consequence of embedding that button appears to be that when a visitor consults the website of Fashion ID, that visitor’s personal data are transmitted to Facebook Ireland. It seems that that transmission occurs without that visitor being aware of it and regardless of whether or not he or she is a member of the social network Facebook or has clicked on the ‘Like’ button.
[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62...
[2] https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=h...