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Re:Slack was down by derwiki on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:11AM (#20555367)
Comparing one proprietary service to federated and open services? I'm not following you
Re:Slack was down by mr__y on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:16AM (#20555421)
While email as a whole is indeed federated, email service for a single company is usually not, that is you have a single provider and when that provider happens to have technical issues your email might be down. While obviously you could use other provider (or even free email) almost immediately to send emails, you will not be able to receive/access emails that are sent to your primary address/domain until the provider resolves their issues.
Re:Slack was down by JD557 on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:19AM (#20555454)
>you will not be able to receive/access emails that are sent to your primary address/domain until the provider resolves their issues.

You won't be able to receive new e-mails, but if you use a local client like thunderbird, you can still access your old e-mails.

With slack down, I can only access the messages that I (luckily) have cached locally.

Re:Slack was down by jedberg on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:19AM (#20555455)
Except that email has built in retries and feedback. Also it's expected to be async, so if a server is down for an hour, most people don't even notice.
Re:Slack was down by mr__y on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:27AM (#20555556)
> email has built in retries and feedback

Yes it has and it is a great thing - hopefully no messages would be lost assuming that downtime is relatively short. This still does pose a (possibly minor) problem when some mails are urgent.

Re:Slack was down by freehunter on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:16AM (#20555423)
It doesn't really matter how open and federated email is if all mail in/out of your mailbox has to go through one provider. If my company's Exchange server went down, email would stop.

Likewise for Internet service... if my local AT&T connection went down, it doesn't matter how open and resilient the Internet is, I'm not getting online until it's fixed.

Re:Slack was down by mr__y on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:36AM (#20555666)
I used to work for a relatively small dev-shop (9 persons) and we had two independent internet connections from two providers to avoid such problems. This was because done that way because there was only one fiber provider that wasn't really reliable (3+ hours downtimes every 1-2 months) and mobile tethering wasn't really an option as well because of nearby powerlines that made the reception quite a problem - to the point where our sales guy had to go outside the building during some calls. Luckily there was a second ISP - not really fast (10mbps was the best they could do) and quite expensive (we've paid more than twice more for that 10mbps than for a gigabit fiber), but still cheaper than having 9 people not able to work while waiting for the "main" ISP to solve their problems.
Re:Slack was down by andoma on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:20AM (#20555480)
When this happens I just switch to tethering from my cell phone. Redundant enough.
Re:Slack was down by freehunter on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:31AM (#20555607)
So when Slack is down, just text your coworkers. Problem solved.
Re:Slack was down by Angostura on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:19AM (#20555461)
> f my local AT&T connection went down, it doesn't matter how open and resilient the Internet is, I'm not getting online until it's fixed.

Except that you could work from home, check your e-mail using mobile.

Re:Slack was down by runn1ng on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:14AM (#20555408)
Mailservers are also down very often.

When a company switches from their own e-mail server to hosted Google Mail, their uptime improves.