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Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by flomo on Saturday July 27, 2019 @11:44PM (#20545728)
My take on the iPad form-factor hasn't really changed since the introduction. Its really great for certain casual use cases, but as soon as you sit down at a desk to get some work done, oh god does this fucking suck. And the keyboard cases actually make it worse because you delude yourself into thinking it makes it better, when it does not.

So an iOS/iPadOS laptop with full KVM support always seemed like a no-brainer in my mind. Or at least a much more obvious move than MacOS/ARM (which would split a small ecosystem behind the only logic that "they did it before and it worked out".) Plus 'the future' is obviously iOS.

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by brantonb on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:54AM (#20545913)
I love my iPad with the keyboard case. When I hook it up to an external monitor and my Kinesis keyboard, it’s even better. I’m looking forward to mouse support in iOS 13.

One of my favorite apps when it comes to the keyboard is Blink. It’s an SSH/Mosh client with a limited local shell. I use it to build a Jekyll site on an EC2 instance. Blink supports multi-monitor, so I can have different shells on different screens.

Multi-window in iOS 13 is going to be another game changer. This is the best device I’ve owned and I’m excited about what’s to come.

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by mehmetoguzderin on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:05PM (#20548567)
The new Safari in iPadOS makes it possible to use Code Server (Visual Studio Code on browser) with keyboard. If you already spin an EC2 instance, it is definitely worth a try. This also gives hope about the upcoming Visual Studio Online and its compatibility with iPadOS.
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Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by dang on Sunday July 28, 2019 @05:15PM (#20549876)
Could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're trying for something different than that here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by detaro on Sunday July 28, 2019 @07:11AM (#20546915)
What "really shitty laptop from like 2002" had the weight, the display, the battery lifetime, ... of an iPad Pro?
Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by tomjen3 on Sunday July 28, 2019 @10:46AM (#20547814)
Does the display matter for a terminal application? As for battery and weight, you are talking about pluggin in various other devices that you presumably don't carry around, so it wouldn't make any difference if you plug it in to the power or not.

If you often do carry it (without the other gear), then I can maybe see it, though you can buy a used small thinkpad that can easily run the terminal programs.

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by acollins1331 on Sunday July 28, 2019 @07:12AM (#20546923)
Sorry I had to edit my comment because I can't imagine a laptop from 2002 that doesn't support a mouse.
Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by detaro on Sunday July 28, 2019 @07:19AM (#20546945)
You continue to miss the point. The cool thing about the iPad is not that's a laptop. It's that it's a great device in it's own category, that also more and more can replace a laptop.
Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by AJ007 on Sunday July 28, 2019 @10:01AM (#20547574)
Between touch screen and the Apple Pencil I would say the mouse is the least important input device, unless you really want to play a first person shooter. If you are a keyboard centric developer then ideally everything is accessible by a keyboard shortcut.

Several years back I used my iPad remoting in to my desktop exclusively for about half of the year. There are terrible ways, mediocre ways, and good ways to simulate mouse input with a touch screen. The critical difference between touch and mouse is that a mouse can precisely hit much smaller UI parts (which, a lot of people are going to have trouble seeing anyways.) The Apple Pencil effectively does this — though not with the keyboard mouse pairing most are used to.

I’ve been using Clip Studio Paint on my iPad Pro for quite a while. Their iOS app is a 1:1 UI port from their desktop app. The app is basically Photoshop for illustrators and painters. It works way better than I would have predicted. Without the Apple Pencil, I don’t think the UI would be usable, but the Apple Pencil is the primary input device for the artist.

I’m expecting the iPad to behave very much like a desktop/laptop soon. My bigger concern is all of the software charging by subscription, which is a lot easier to implement with iOS than MacOS/Windows/Linux (kind of ironic that the unsustainable 99 cent price points makes subscription the only viable revenue model.)

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by _bear on Sunday July 28, 2019 @08:07AM (#20547095)
In other words, all you do in use the iPad as a thin-client.

Which a Chromebook could do. Which your phone could do.

Which any of those laptops from 2002 could do.

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by reaperducer on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:20AM (#20545819)
And the keyboard cases actually make it worse because you delude yourself into thinking it makes it better, when it does not.

When I was given my iPad I didn't want to buy a keyboard case. But sometimes I need a keyboard. I happened to have an extra Apple Wireless Keyboard, and it works fantastically. Wireless. Full-sized. And it's only slightly larger than the 9" iPad. I just throw them both in my bag.

Re:Apple: No Macintosh Forks. But the iPad... by flomo on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:47AM (#20545893)
(1) Nah, it certainly doesn't work "fantastically", but might work decently enough for you if you have bought an additional ipad stand. (2) If this was some really great solution and not just your personal workaround, Apple would have been promoting it years ago.

My point is the only way iPadOS can displace laptops is to be a laptop. Not this tablet-stand bullshit.