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Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by pier25 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:00PM (#20519634)
It's totally anecdotal, but most people I know have either stopped using Facebook or are much less active than previously. The few teenagers I know don't even use it at all.

I guess all that growth must come from countries that recently got into Facebook.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by tinyhouse on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:16PM (#20519814)
The people you know may not be representative. I agree that it seems that less people use FB to share stuff about their life or follow friends and family. But many people also shifted their main usage of FB, so it's not that they are not using it all, just use it differently. That's at least my impression based on the little data I have. I'm talking about things like FB groups, market place and others that are pretty popular.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by themodelplumber on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @07:10PM (#20521028)
Agreed, groups are a huge deal. Once I figured out groups my FB use changed dramatically. Now I'm on there all the time, my family and friends don't see what I'm doing unless I for some reason joined a public group, and miracle of miracles, you can even find file downloads in these groups and the search functionality works pretty well.

Facebook was in my no-thanks bucket for a long time, but that has really changed and it didn't involve any significant privacy compromises beyond the usual ad-sales stuff.

By the way, there are a LOT of people using assumed names in these groups. Some of them get reported and return to unleash their annoyance on the rest of the group for "whoever did that". It's a really awkward aspect of the experience IMO.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by type0 on Thursday July 25, 2019 @04:34AM (#20523659)
> By the way, there are a LOT of people using assumed names in these groups. Some of them get reported and return to unleash their

and then they resolve to stolen identities which makes this whole fb thing awfully fraudulent

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by ChuckMcM on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:17PM (#20519833)
Oddly enough my experience is that use has only increased in my parents generation (the 75+ crowd). From my admittedly small glimpse into their circle of "friends" it seems that much of their use is a non-stop rage fest around politics.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by otoburb on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:59PM (#20520307)
Politics, and grandchildren. It seems to be a specific set of topics shared amongst close knit groups in the older demographic.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by scarface74 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:38PM (#20520058)
No, it’s that anecdotal experience doesn’t really say much about a global platform.

Teenagers usually don’t use FB. They have other means to keep in touch with their peer group and they don’t want to be on the same platform as adults are on. But you see once they move away and want to keep in touch with family, they are more likely to be on it.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by taude on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:24PM (#20520601)
They are reporting their users now across Whatsapp, instagram, and FB. While almost everyone I know hardly logs into the FB property, we're still really active on WhatsApp.....and that counts towards their 2.5b monthly user metric.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by cstrat on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @07:37PM (#20521222)
Yeah unfortunately I contribute two users - WhatsApp and Instagram to that count. I am sure plenty of people count multiple times because the services may not be linked together. IG, WhatsApp, FB and even FB Business accounts would all count as separate users when really they are the same human behind the account
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by cfarm on Thursday July 25, 2019 @03:39AM (#20523439)
Yes - pretty much impossible to NOT use some kind of FB service these days. Hence all the anti-trust hoopla.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by pier25 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @07:27PM (#20521152)
Thanks, I didn't know that. I thought it was purely Facebook users.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by basch on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:21PM (#20519863)
Daily Users have grown only 5m in 2 years, in the US/Canada.

About 51% of US/C check facebook or messenger every day, and 67% every month. So 16% of people check it but less than daily.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by scarejunba on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:28PM (#20519940)
I use it more than ever! It's where everyone organizes events, says they're interested in festivals so they know which friends are going, forms groups around.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by rainyMammoth on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:25PM (#20519915)
Same here. My group of friends we all have an account but we very rarely post anything. I only connect maybe once a week max to see if I have some notifications.

Every once in a while I think about deleting my account but then I remember I have all those people I know only through Facebook.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by obliviousonions on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:47PM (#20520829)
I agree, teens dont use facebook. But in College, everything changes. Its the easiest platform to coordinate events across hundreds of people you might not even know. Theres just a bunch of cases that no other platform covers, like finding clubs and events, promoting your party, or even selling donuts to fundraise. It does everything on one platform that everyone has. We don't like facebook, but there is simply no alternative.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by kartan on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:23PM (#20520590)
> I guess all that growth must come from countries that recently got into Facebook.

I have worked for companies with big, really big, user bases. As time passes companies get way better at getting more value from each user. They have more data. They have better software to offer promotions, advertisements, etc. You may be better off with half the users but getting more money from each one of them than with more users but giving low value. Depending on where the lines in the graph cross less users and more money is possible.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by rdtsc on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:33PM (#20519998)
I have yet to sign up.

I have missed meetups, other social engagements, family photo shares, news and such that were on FB only. Get routinely made fun of by family and friends since I am the "techy" who is "afraid" of technology as they say.

But people I care about I contact via email, chat, talk in person or phone. Maybe I am strange and I just never felt the need to either broadcast to everyone what I am doing or keep an eye on what everyone else is doing unless I am talking to them one one one.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by mav3rick on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:00PM (#20520320)
You don't have to broadcast. You can just make an account and let them invite you. It's not as hard as HN makes it out to be.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by killyp on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:09PM (#20520433)
This. I have had a Facebook account since the days of needing to be invited and yet I have posted a status update on the site less than 10 times. I barely even check on my newsfeed.

But there is hardly a messaging platform as ubiquitous as Facebook messenger. Not everyone uses it as their main messaging client but almost everyone has one. Having an active Facebook page and group has also done more for my online business than any ad marketing. And Facebook marketplace is like Craigslist but better in almost every way.

I don't care if people make a Facebook account or not but there is certainly value in one, even if you don't care about the "News Feed".

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by reaperducer on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @08:44PM (#20521621)
My impression (also anecdotal) is that while there are people who have given up Facebook, or are using it less, they're a small percentage.

Most of what I've noticed is people no longer posting something on Facebook, then Instygram, then Twitter, then Tumblr, then whatever else is out there. They seem to be coalescing into one or two favored platforms.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by AmericanChopper on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:14PM (#20519782)
Anecdotally, I know a lot of people who stopped using facebook, but continued using messenger. They’d all still count as MAU.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by shados on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:22PM (#20519878)
usage has shifted less from "posting baby pictures omg omg omg" to more facebook groups and business pages and stuff. Which is likely better for Facebook and exactly what they want (well, they'd probably rather have both, but if they can only have one..)
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by _Understated_ on Thursday July 25, 2019 @07:57AM (#20524617)
I remember reading a while back (It may have been on here but I can't find it!) that the growth wasn't the big ticket issue facing them it was the lack of sharing!

People were sharing less and that seemed to be a major issue for them.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by jammygit on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @11:06PM (#20522232)
I have a bunch of friends who barely used it to begin with. More recently, most of the people I'm closest to who did have stopped using it. I think my aunts and uncles use it more these days though?
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by uwuhn on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:07PM (#20519715)
Instagram
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by pastor_elm on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:25PM (#20519911)
I see people glued to the Facebook app every day.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by deanstag on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:11PM (#20519763)
I'm not sure if the report includes Whatsapp, but that should be a huge portion of active users.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by Nelson69 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:04PM (#20520374)
Their MAUs and DAUs exclude insta and whatsapp. Bottom of page 4 of their 10Q.

I wonder if there is sort of the uncool factor going on. People might "use" FB but it's not cool to post very often or admit to it. 1.56B DAUs, that's 20% of the planet, if you include whatsapp, I think it's staggeringly more. Either they are somehow lying about their numbers and risking potential shareholder lawsuits or it is like shopping at Walmart or eating at McDonald's where the "cool kids" never admit to it but very clearly a good sized chunk of them still do. Lying about the numbers just seems sort of silly to me.

It's odd, none of my same age friends post much on FB; it's vacation brag pictures, various life events or children's milestones sort of stuff. At the same time, messenger might be the best way to contact many of them, better than SMS.

Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by jtms on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:13PM (#20519775)
I can also anecdotally confirm that I myself and most of my friends very rarely use Facebook anymore. I imagine that my browser or devices are still pinging FB on my behalf and counting me as an "active user" even though I haven't browsed the app or site in more than a year.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday July 25, 2019 @05:27AM (#20523907)
If you look at how they determine an active user (in their quarterly filings), you'll discover that that is not particularly true.
Re:Facebook revenue beats estimates; discloses antitrust probe by mrgreenfur on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:00PM (#20519638)
Or from fraudulent accounts, or both!