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Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by ayw on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @11:36PM (#20512216)
Hi, I'm the CEO of Scale.ai.

This comment does not represent the company's viewpoint, and cardigan is not speaking on behalf of Scale.

We are very excited to have been able to work with Lyft in open-sourcing this dataset and advancing the research community. We are also very grateful to Lyft for choosing to leverage our point cloud viewer and have credited the annotations to us on their launch page.

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by atarian on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @02:20AM (#20512762)
This is pretty effective marketing... generate some fake controversy over some small slight and have it go viral on HN.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by thetrainfold on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:00AM (#20512910)
(I work in marketing at scale)

Thank you.

(I don't really)

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by mkagenius on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:02AM (#20513403)
Plot twist: Original comment was also the CEO.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by FBISurveillance on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:00AM (#20512468)
That escalated quickly.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by kerng on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @12:10AM (#20512311)
Still odd Lyft doesn't credit this when posting about it.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by gesman on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @11:53PM (#20512267)
Gotta love HN.

Good people come to comment on a minute notice!

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by mkagenius on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:39AM (#20512613)
Business should not be lost. Credit is secondary.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by Cakez0r on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @02:11AM (#20512730)
Under the bus they go!
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by skocznymroczny on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:16AM (#20513190)
Someone will get fired today
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by friendly_chap on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:22AM (#20513217)
Hopefully not. Cardigan obviously is has the company's interest in mind, even if perhaps the execution is a little flawed. Cardigan has just learnt a lot about PR and also gave a lot of free airtime to Scale.

Also hopefully Scale will use this opportunity to educate team members about situations like this.

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by rolltiide on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:19AM (#20512987)
> I doubt leaving out Scale completely from the announcement is in the spirit of the agreement

CEO Narrator: it was.

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Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by dang on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @05:22AM (#20513487)
That crosses into personal attack, which is not allowed on HN, even if you are fighting the forces of capital.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by dangero on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @01:31AM (#20512577)
That’s a strange take on this. Not all staff are authorized to speak on the company’s behalf. That’s true almost anywhere I’ve worked. Your efforts cannot always be recognized externally. NDAs and various other types of contracts commonly outline that.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by brianpgordon on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:13AM (#20512959)
I would be surprised if many people here really just assumed that a pseudonymous user chatting with us in the HN comments was speaking on behalf of the company in an official capacity. I mean, obviously there are legal niceties to be observed and he should have appended the usual disclaimers, blah blah blah, but we do have common sense here right?
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by donkeyd on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:58AM (#20513126)
No, people don't have common sense. People should not post publicly on behalf of their employer without running it by a manager. This is lesson one at every major corporate introduction and I now understand why, because people don't have common sense.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by brianpgordon on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @04:28AM (#20513243)
I didn't say anything about whether he should or should not have spoken out about the deal. And I specifically said that common sense doesn't cut the mustard legally. But I am asserting that the damage from people supposedly assuming that he was speaking officially is speculative and likely zero.
Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by dmix on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @02:12AM (#20512731)
This isn’t really about employee recognition. The whole comment was about attribution for the company and marketing the partnership with Scale. Which is pretty standard in some business arrangements but which wasn’t the case here, which the employee wasn’t aware of and turned out to not that big of a deal for scale. Plenty of companies work in the background supporting other. Businesses and don’t always need attribution.

OP is trying to pigeonhole this into some sort of anti capitalist diatribe by trying to make it about individual employees wanting recognition and some big evil company is treating them like invisible cogs in the machine... which doesn’t make much sense since he asked for the company itself to be attributed, not individuals. It’s up to the company to reward and recognize employee contributions, not in some 3rd party partners announcements.

Plus he was always free to comment how he helped work on it or letting people know Scale had a role in helping make it (which are both common on HN). Only if the parent company tried to suppress that would this argument make any sense. But I don’t know why I’m bothering to counter such a position.

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by exit on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @02:06AM (#20512709)
that's a strange response. i'm already clearly critiquing the dominant paradigm, capitalism. why would you just itemise a bunch of conventions from this paradigm, which i likely disagree with?

do you need hn to be an agreeable echo chamber for you?

capitalism depends on people not thinking thoroughly about the "deal" they are being drawn into. i'm here to harm this situation.

Re:Lyft releases self-driving research dataset by mitfahrener on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @11:51PM (#20512259)
Ouchy