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Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by modzu on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:49AM (#20497923)
the thing is, nobody knows how to do that. it's not a money problem.
Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by arethuza on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:52AM (#20497953)
OpenAI is a research company - that's what research is, working out how to do things we don't know how to do. Research requires some money so at one level it is a money problem.
Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by modzu on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:13AM (#20498111)
but this is alchemy isn't it? there isn't even a theoretical framework from which we can even begin to suggest how to keep any "general intelligence" benign. good old fashioned research notwithstanding, a billion dollars is not about to change this. it reads to more to me like this is an investment in azure (ie microsoft picking up some machine learning expertise to leverage in its future cloud services). that's not a judgement, and i'm sure lots of cool work will still come from this, given the strength of the team and massive backing they have. it just smells funny.
Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by logicchains on Monday July 22, 2019 @11:51AM (#20499149)
Alchemy wasn't entirely wrong; it is indeed possible to turn lead into gold, it was just beyond the technology of the time: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-l....
Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by arethuza on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:20AM (#20498182)
Well, unlike alchemy there are some pretty good examples of intelligent agents around - some even involved in this project!
Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by codelemur on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:56AM (#20497994)
(no sarcasm)

You know, I can't prove that researchers being funded is the best way of figuring out how to do things, but I have a gut intuition that tells me that.

I'll look into it so that I'm not just blindly suggesting that $$ ==> people ==> research ==> progress.

Thanks for the opportunity to reflect!

Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by modzu on Monday July 22, 2019 @10:21AM (#20498188)
it really is an interesting subject to explore within the philosophy of science :)
Re:Microsoft is investing $1B in OpenAI by est31 on Monday July 22, 2019 @09:56AM (#20497995)
You need to be able to test your designs and for that you need resources like AI accelerators.