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Re:Cobol Still Powers the Global Economy by simonh on Wednesday July 17, 2019 @02:42AM (#20457087)
Not a downvoted, but tempted.

The question ‘fastest at what’ is right there in the original quote - processing. Assembly isn’t commonly considered a ‘processing language’ and in the context processing is a term of art for the kind of batch processing tasks cobol was designed for.

Even that aside, we all ‘know’ assembly is the fastest. It’s a given. Nitpicking comments like that betrays a hostile attitude and lack of generosity of spirit. We shouldn’t have to post pages if caveats and justifications and hedging for a comment like that.

Attacks like this come across as intellectual grandstanding and aren’t actually contributing anything of value.

Re:Cobol Still Powers the Global Economy by rdiddly on Wednesday July 17, 2019 @03:38AM (#20457336)
I agree all the indignation is a bit much. The B in COBOL stands for Business, so, surprise, it's good at business stuff. It's right there on the label.
Re:Cobol Still Powers the Global Economy by kragen on Wednesday July 17, 2019 @03:03AM (#20457187)
I am not familiar with this sense of the term “processing”, so perhaps it's less widely understood than you think. I assumed that in the context it meant the kind of processing the Central Processing Unit and Graphics Processing Unit in my hand computer does, which is pretty broad.

So I thought it was a reasonable criticism of an overly broad or at least very ambiguous assertion, regardless of its motivation. It’s quite common for the best arguments against an argument to come from people who are hostile to it for whatever reason. More carefully defining the scope of things where we would expect COBOL to get top performance marks would make the conversation far more informative and productive.

As for assembly, there is now a broad class of problems for which CPU assembly is far from the fastest solution, because GPUs are faster. Even on the CPU, there is a widespread (but usually false) belief that compilers beat expert assembly programming. So perhaps to you it's a vacuously true statement that adds no useful information, I read it as rebutting a belief many readers may really have (though, unfortunately, only as a bare assertion.)

Re:Cobol Still Powers the Global Economy by simonh on Wednesday July 17, 2019 @09:34AM (#20459268)
If you don't know, look it up or ask a question. Launching into argumentative nitpicky screeds that are actually it turns out irrelevant to the point in discussion is just annoying.

I think it's unreasonable to expect every comment about every bit of technology, old or new, discussed on HN to come with pages of preamble, caveats and definitions of terms.

Re:Cobol Still Powers the Global Economy by kragen on Wednesday July 17, 2019 @12:35PM (#20461310)
As I said, I think you are mistaken about how widespread that definition is, so looking it up wouldn't have helped.