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Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:39PM (#20435479)
Except the country already acquired all that via globalisation. This isn't 1952. There are few walls up on many technologies. India has acquired most of its know-how by undercutting developed nations and getting them to teach them how to do the work.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by lewisjoe on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:21PM (#20435742)
Is it? Agriculture is the country’s major occupation, yet it imports rice polishing machines from switzerland.

Indian market is one of the fastest growing smartphone market. Yet the biggest players are Chinese, Korean or American.

Railways has been the primary source of connection across the country and within cities. Yet metro trains are made by Japan and european companies.

In the cities IT services are the main source of economy, yet India never shipped its own microprocessor until very recently.

I can go on, but you get the point. Having a vague idea of how to do something vs shipping a world class product are two different things. What’s happening with the moon mission is the latter, though at a very beginning stage.

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:25PM (#20435760)
The UK used to know build how to most those things, indeed invented them; they now buy them from abroad. Globalisation and the economics thereof dictate that.

India to some degree skipped a step on the way. Much like central and rural African countries skipping broadband and going straight to mobile internet.

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by lewisjoe on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:40PM (#20435854)
Yes. UK’s biggest company is not a train engine company. UK learned that it could generate far more revenue by selling financial services with its rich legacy along that line, than export train engines that it invented.

India took a similar path in 90s, selling IT services. But it isn’t simply enough given the size and the population of the country. The only sustainable way forward is to become strong exporters of good products along with services.

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by sanxiyn on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:49PM (#20435540)
Some knowledge only can be learned by doing. Also, space technology is, due to its close tie to missile technology, one of those few modern technologies with walls up.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:03PM (#20435635)
What are you talking about? India has Nuclear weapons and self made 12k km range ICBMs already
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by sanxiyn on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:21PM (#20435741)
India didn't acquire launch technology "via globalisation". In fact, when India attempted technology transfer from Russia, US objected citing Missile Technology Control Regime, and India had to develop their own.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:36PM (#20435835)
Yea. They basically went back to first principles on relativity I hear. They had nothing to go on. No well understood science in the public domain at all.

And the objection was around the seeker technology more specifically

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by shripadk on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:13PM (#20436530)
If you want to keep going back in time why not go all the way back to Science that was founded in India and was taken and adopted by the West? How about we go all the way back to the numeral system (which originated from the Brahmi numerals) without which there would be no foundation for any future Scientific discoveries? It is ridiculous to keep going back in time to justify something that is happening today. Every race has contributed to Science in its own way. To ridicule the efforts of the present day Scientists by continuously invoking the past is absolutely uncalled for. No matter how much you try to hide scientific discoveries it will eventually find its way out of your grasp. That is how it has been since time immemorial and will never change just because you wish so.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by dang on Monday July 15, 2019 @05:55PM (#20445654)
Please don't do nationalistic flamewar on HN, regardless of how provocative some other comments are. Everyone needs to make an effort here to prevent discussion from degrading into battle.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Monday July 15, 2019 @11:27AM (#20441713)
How about you calm down and pay attention to the discussion. Total lunatic. I was stating my point around the closed science of the cold war era. India was doing nothing around that time. It then benefited, like everyone else in the world when the huge post war advances were done in public in peer reviewed science. When you do something ow, it is not from scratch. Its not an insult as you seem to think it is.

Your behaviour is scandalous and anathema to any reasonable discussion. You simply invent your own argument to have with yourself. I'm finished here.

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by dang on Monday July 15, 2019 @05:55PM (#20445657)
Personal attacks will get you banned here. Please review the site guidelines and don't post like this to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: we've had to warn you about this more than once before. I don't want to ban you, so would you please fix this?

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by jvanderbot on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:14PM (#20435703)
"Walls up"

"Self made"

Exactly.

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:34PM (#20435818)
The rumor is Russian leaked India some of the tech. Most of it was well k own anyway
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by shripadk on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:00PM (#20436419)
Do you realise just how ridiculous you sound right now?
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by mindfulplay on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:36PM (#20435833)
A lot of developed nations are piggybacking on the educated, talented people from India. It's only fair India got its fair share back.

More importantly, corruption and backstabbing has so far ruined such talent, spilling into developed nations; so if there is a somewhat level playing field being established through ISRO and via Indian startups for Indians, then that's a great start.

Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by denzil_correa on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:20PM (#20435738)
USA has developed most of its business income/value by exploiting purchasing power capita of nations like India and China. It works both ways.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by suyash on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:44PM (#20435513)
Lol, you must be joking, in fact it's the opposite. It's majority of Indians who are doing cutting edge research and innovating just look at what's going on any day in Silicon Valley or any top Universities. Now they are starting to do the same in their country while being creative with lost cost solutions.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:50PM (#20435547)
And the acquisition of those skill sets come from the west working with them. Science isn't a closed shop anymore.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by mruts on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:49PM (#20435541)
You’re saying it’s Indians that are doing the majority (>%50) of cutting edge research? That’s just not true, even in the slightest.
Re:India is sending a rover to the moon, and the country is ... by shripadk on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:04PM (#20436455)
http://www.forbesindia.com/article/innovation-special/18-ind...

EDIT: Since Hacker News won't allow me to post a reply. I am editing this post here.

You misunderstood what he said. He said that "majority of Indians" are doing cutting-edge research in foreign Universities. Not "majority of cutting-edge research" are being done by Indians. Both have different meanings. Most Indians who travel to foreign countries get higher education grants/fellowships to work on cutting-edge research. Very few Indians actually travel for undergraduate courses. India has prestigious universities like IITs/NITs which are equal to and in some cases better than Western counterparts. The reason why Indians travel to Western countries for research is because of lack of research grants to carry out Scientific experiments that might run into many millions/billions of dollars. In other words, this is brain drain at its finest.