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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by pas on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:15PM (#20435323)
FYI

Planned grazing is very likely bullshit.

https://www.truthordrought.com/holistic-grazing-myths

edit: https://skepticalscience.com/holistic-management-rebuttal.ht...

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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by sampo on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:50PM (#20436771)
> https://www.truthordrought.com/holistic-grazing-myths

Based on quickly skimming that webpage, its main scientific source is one article in 2014 in International Journal of Biodiversity. This International Journal of Biodiversity [1] was only published from 2013 to 2018. It is such a small and fringe journal that I can not even find an impact factor for it. Also its publisher [2] has occasionally been accused of predatory practices. Without reading the article, I cannot of course directly comment on the quality of the study. But publishing in such a small-time, fringe journal gives a bad secondary signal.

[1] https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijbd/contents/

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindawi_Publishing_Corporation

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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by jillesvangurp on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:42PM (#20435860)
Read the guardian article, it cites a few reputable sources to debunk the debunkers. So, I'd be careful calling bullshit on things based on some blogs with an agenda. Skeptical science seems to exist to empower climate change deniers with the illusion of factual reality. Bullshit in other words.

Ultimately, it seems there are a few projects out there practicing instead of theorizing and converting actual desert back into fertile land.

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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by briantakita on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:24PM (#20437419)
> Skeptical science seems to exist to empower climate change deniers with the illusion of factual reality

It seems like Skeptical Science is "Getting skeptical about global warming skepticism". They are a pro global warming site.

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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by whyenot on Sunday July 14, 2019 @03:34PM (#20435446)
That’s possibly true, but a position paper from a group whose stated goal is to promote the vegan diet should be regarded with some skepticism when it comes to presenting unbiased scientific facts.
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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by 29athrowaway on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:35PM (#20435827)
Wasn't holistic management invented by Allan Savory? (the guy that killed 40,000 elephants)
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Re:Soil Erosion: Why soil is disappearing from farms by jillesvangurp on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:58PM (#20435968)
Yep; something he readily admits to in his ted talk as something he royally messed up. That doesn't mean everything he says or does is bullshit. Basically all he is saying that cattle grazing and fertilizing land can be a good thing and if you do it in a somewhat data driven way by actually looking at how the land responds, you can get some impressive results.
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