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Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by arkades on Saturday July 13, 2019 @10:25AM (#20428200)
What’s a good alternative? Their Netflix Originals are owned by them; non-original library sucks to begin with.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by wolco on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:03AM (#20428362)
Plex streaming feels like the next step. Netflix is great but so much is missing and being able to get older series or one place for all content seems like where I want to endup.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by cgriswald on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:45AM (#20428587)
I recently set up a Plex server. It's serviceable and I like it a lot, but I'd only give it three stars at this point.

There are things that don't work right: I have constant buffering on a couple of my devices, even at (say) 720p just serving up files with no transcoding, when Netflix et al have no problem serving me 4K to the same device without buffering. (My guess is its a problem with the client app, but I haven't really looked into it.)

There are things that are weird: If you have more than one version of the same movie or show, it lets you select between them not by (say) file name or runtime, but by video quality. So, for instance, I recently ripped a TV series and several of the episodes have extended editions. There's no way to tell which version is which until I start playing one of them.

There are things missing: Hardware acceleration on my i9 is the big one right now for me.

There seem to be regular updates, but they're often things that don't affect me as well. So it feels like updates are slow. (Like a fix for DVR service, which I don't use; or say an update to an XBox client.)

All that said... I'm not saying this to discourage anyone. Like I said, it's serviceable.

I think about the library I could have in ten years spending the money on Blu-Ray discs (on sale of course) instead of shelling out money to Comcast/Netflix/Amazon/HBO/Hulu/etc every month. And the best part is, I know it'll still be there when I'm ready to watch it or rewatch it.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by dvtrn on Saturday July 13, 2019 @12:09PM (#20428731)
Netflix et al have no problem serving me 4K to the same device without buffering

Apples and geo-redundant and highly-available by design oranges, isn't it? Netflix has invested millions in their infrastructure, seems only logical they'd have the edge in content delivery especially to remote devices. Plex on the other hand, if it's just you on your residential copper line connection, well...there you have it.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by cgriswald on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:04PM (#20428994)
What do I have?

Netflix can get me 4K content from the internet, through my ethernet, to my device. Plex can get me 4K content from my internal server, through my ethernet, to several of my devices.

Certain Plex client apps choke on any quality coming from the same Plex server over the same ethernet.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by dvtrn on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:14PM (#20429044)
What do I have?

I can only assume a residential internet connection, which typically packet filters and shapes for uploading content? It's only a guess though, you might have much better options for residential ISP than I do.

Plex can get me 4K content from my internal server, through my ethernet, to several of my devices.

Across the internet as well or when you're on your local network? My experience has been (and like with all things YMMV) infinitely better watching at home than connecting to my VPN and trying to tunnel back, but I fully expected that because the local ISP places a pretty well enforced limit on uploads from residential lines.

Comparatively though, I don't think either of our connections for streaming content from our respective home media servers holds a candle to the infrastructure of Netflix, which is why my expectations are rather measured regarding the capabilities of Plex.

That said, I love it for what it is.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by cgriswald on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:32PM (#20429124)
I don't expect 4K content to my phone over my VPN. (I've been able to get 1080p content across my VPN without problems.)

I'm measuring Plex on my LAN against Plex on my LAN. Some of my clients accept 4K streams with no problems. Other clients buffer an unwatchable amount even on 480p from the same server.

My purpose of bringing up Netflix was only to show that the client devices that are choking on 480p from Plex are capable of handling 4K streams.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by dvtrn on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:38PM (#20429162)
Some of my clients accept 4K streams with no problems. Other clients buffer an unwatchable amount even on 480p from the same server.

Sampling all the way down to 480p is definitely odd behavior on a LAN--can't say I've run into that. Have you had much help from the usual spots? I'd be curious to help troubleshoot this sometime, sounds like an interesting nut to try cracking, or is it something inherent to the clients with the way they're decoding?

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by JaRail on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:24PM (#20429086)
> There are things missing: Hardware acceleration on my i9 is the big one right now for me.

Since encoding is one of the things the PLEX team gets from open-source, hardware encoding is a frustrating feature to pay-walled in their premium subscription.

It does seem like we're due for a new open-source media server.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by hawski on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:40PM (#20429172)
Do Blu-Ray players allow to go straight to movie? Is Blu-Ray playback supported by Linux? I don't really know, but for a few months now I long for simplicity of owning a disc.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by zupzupper on Saturday July 13, 2019 @12:52PM (#20428938)
I would point out that their DVD and Blu-ray selection is still excellent.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by arkades on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:08PM (#20431408)
If I had any devices that still accepted discs, ... but I don’t. I can’t honestly remember the last time I had a DVD player. Maybe a decade ago?
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by jcoffland on Saturday July 13, 2019 @10:41AM (#20428264)
> What’s a good alternative?

Go outside. Read a book. Spend quality time with your family.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by arkades on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:48AM (#20428605)
I do those things. Also, I watch movies, which is obviously what the question addressed. I don’t think your answer added anything substantive or meaningful to the conversation at all, and was at best a condescending distractor.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by hombre_fatal on Saturday July 13, 2019 @12:00PM (#20428685)
I don't know, I think it's a good contrast to the sort of shrill voices that crop up on this topic. Like when people complain how expensive it is once they task themselves to subscribe to every streaming TV service, as if it wasn't self-inflicted or as if the point of life is to maximize TV consumption.

We take our culture of hyper-consumption for granted so much that people scoff when you suggest "well, why not consume less? What's the big deal?"

It's not like we need more posts of people vocalizing how begrudgingly they subscribe to Netflix in every Netflix thread. As if unsubscribing is never an option. It's a bit exhausting to scroll through.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by floatboth on Saturday July 13, 2019 @01:03PM (#20428990)
Or watch YouTube and play videogames :D

(preferably indie ones, the "AAA" game industry is about as bad as hollywood)

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by rvp-x on Saturday July 13, 2019 @10:46AM (#20428293)
my family loves watching movies.
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Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by geofft on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:08AM (#20428394)
The book publishing industry goes about their goals rather differently. Comparing the book industry and the movie industry makes as much sense as not buying wine because you're upset about the tobacco lobby (or saying that you can't criticize the tobacco industry if you're willing to buy wine).
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by AndrewUnmuted on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:52AM (#20428627)
They really don't, especially not anymore. For-profit book publishing has turned decidedly Hollywood. I've worked in both book publishing and in Hollywood, and people often forget that they are really one in the same now. CBS owns Simon & Schuster, HarperCollins is owned by News Corp, and Penguin Random House is owned by Bertelsmann, one of the world's largest media conglomerates.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by scarface74 on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:30AM (#20428515)
How are they different? They both support long copywriters, support DRM of digital media, etc.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by geofft on Sunday July 14, 2019 @07:43AM (#20432923)
Two important ways: first, they're happy to publish physical, analog books, which the movie industry no longer does. That allows institutions like libraries and used-book stores to exist. Second, they've never put a rootkit in their DRM.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by scarface74 on Sunday July 14, 2019 @01:55PM (#20434763)
Realistically analog books are harder to copy and distribute than digital books. Some authors won’t publish to kindle for that reason. (https://www.quora.com/Why-isnt-Cracking-the-Coding-Interview...)

The movie industry also creates physical disks that you can trade but they have had copy protection since the analog era.

Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by schwede on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:03AM (#20428363)
You could go to the library for a book.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by scarface74 on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:31AM (#20428519)
You can go to the library for a DVD....
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by cannonedhamster on Saturday July 13, 2019 @11:03AM (#20428366)
There are tons of good books that are in the public domain. Lots of self published good content. You could also listen to music which has tons of free sources like Jamendo. You could also create your own amusement by learning a skill or crafting.
Re:MPAA Welcomes Netflix as New Member by givinguflac on Saturday July 13, 2019 @10:55AM (#20428327)
Yo-ho, yo-ho....