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Re:Hospitals Block ‘Surprise Billing’ Measure by colechristensen on Friday July 12, 2019 @04:50PM (#20424372)
You might be able to negotiate with the medical provider itself. Say you want to pay without insurance and ask about the cost and doing any reductions.

The number on the bill before the insurance discount is entirely imaginary, no one pays it.

There is always a built in cash discount for people without insurance.

For example, for a while I was having trouble getting insurance cards (stupid reasons) at a new position so I was paying out of pocket for prescriptions and office visits.

They were less expensive paying cash than with insurance pre-deductible.

Re:Hospitals Block ‘Surprise Billing’ Measure by FireBeyond on Friday July 12, 2019 @05:03PM (#20424484)
> The number on the bill before the insurance discount is entirely imaginary, no one pays it.

Until they don't pay it. Then that entirely imaginary number becomes a very real debt that gets sold and reported.

Re:Hospitals Block ‘Surprise Billing’ Measure by impendia on Friday July 12, 2019 @10:09PM (#20426089)
I did call them. They said they would be able to lower the rate from 2.5x the insurance rate (which is what they billed me for) to 1.7x.

I was all set to settle my bill actually, but the woman in billing (at the doctor's office) urged me to not give up and file another appeal. Apparently even she agrees that this is bullshit.

The whole experience has been surreal.