Re:Apple has pushed a silent Mac update to remove hidden Zoo...
by ncallaway on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:51AM
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This same line of reasoning could apply to any Windows or Mac OS update that disables and removes known viruses and malware.
Is it appropriate for Microsoft and Apple to push updates that disable and remove those from infected computers? If so, what is the significant difference?
Re:Apple has pushed a silent Mac update to remove hidden Zoo...
by userbinator on Thursday July 11, 2019 @07:55AM
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No, and there is no difference, because "infected" in their eyes is not necessarily so in the user's. To give a clear example, AVs have had a long history of false positive problems with things like cracks, keygens, and demoscene productions. Even then, for the most part(? I have not used a persistent AV for a long time) I believe they still tell you first and then let you decide what to do when they find something.
I remember many years ago when the first widespread worms for Windows started circulating. All MS did was publish news and a removal tool. It was publicised greatly, but the ultimate choice was left to the owners of the computers, and that's how it should be.
All the big tech companies (and even a lot of the smaller ones) are becoming increasingly authoritarian, and that's the most concerning thing about this.
Re:Apple has pushed a silent Mac update to remove hidden Zoo...
by Crinus on Thursday July 11, 2019 @07:49AM
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Windows Defender doesn't remove stuff silently, it shows you notifications, provides control to ignore parts of your computer you know can misfire and you can revert the actions it does.
What if Apple abuses that power in ways that not everyone sees as "abuse", yet they are affected by it?
The reason you are not already seeing this act as abuse is because you happen to agree with it. What if you didn't agree? What if you were in the minority? What if the reason you where in the minority was that the majority simply didn't had the necessary understanding, experience and/or knowledge to see the issue you see?
If something can be abused, it will be abused, there isn't a matter of if, it is a matter of when. And with that in mind it is better to try and avoid being abused than wait for the abuse to happen and see what you can do after the fact.