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Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by King-Aaron on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:08AM (#20399284)
It's probably a logical fallacy of some kind on my part, but does it seem to anyone else that stories about UFO's are recently becoming more common in the mainstream media?
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by kuzehanka on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @04:14AM (#20400087)
Yes, but not UFOs as in aliens. UFOs as in there's a ton of unidentified aircraft in any given airspace that no one is claiming responsibility for. This is happening because the US Navy recently released a bunch of UFO info to the public and admitted that UFO encounters are a pretty frequent occurrence for Navy pilots (again, not in the aliens sense).
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by dTal on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @05:41AM (#20400470)
Bearing in mind that this is the same Navy that apparently has such difficulty seeing other ships that they ram into them on a regular basis. There is such an institutional culture of sleep deprivation that it's not really surprising they have a high incident rate for this sort of thing.
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by kuzehanka on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @06:45AM (#20400727)
I don't understand what you're getting at. They have a large number of recorded UFO incidents with captured evidence, usually from the aircraft instrumentation itself.

If you're trying to imply they're imagining it due to sleep deprivation, that's a bit crass.

We're talking about stuff like this: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000005607812/look-at-tha...

Could be a falling piece of debris, could be evil space aliens, they don't know what it is - hence UFO.

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by dTal on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @07:42AM (#20400988)
Not imagining it, as such. There are many odd optical phenomena when flying in the sky - specular reflections may present as moving objects, and small close objects can easily be mistaken for large distant ones. It takes some measure of critical thinking to identify these things at the time, and it's not always possible to reconstruct what they were afterwards. Sleep deprivation will sap this critical thinking ability.

Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it. You see a similar phenomenon in other UFO videos that seem to show the UFO "suddenly accelerating" at the end - the camera gimbal reaches the end of its travel, and the object is yanked out of shot.

The Navy has the resources to check for dirt on a lens before they release a video like this. I maintain that the quantity of UFO videos coming out of the Navy tells us more about the Navy than about UFOs.

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by kuzehanka on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @10:02AM (#20402012)
> Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens.

Mate, it's an object being tracked by multiple planes with multiple cameras (more footage of this incident on youtube), two of which are shown in the video (ir and visual). The only reason it's being tracked at all is because they had RADAR lock on it, as indicated by the two vertical lines encompassing it on the display. The reason it appears to be 'stuck' to the view is because the tracking system is that good.

Spend 5 minutes picking up a cursory understanding of a topic before confidently stating outright silliness.

Here, see another one and watch how the RADAR symbology works when the pilot gets a lock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fd6ssvcBoM

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by injb on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @09:13AM (#20401608)
>Lest you think I'm being unfair, consider your link; that's clearly dirt in the lens. The clue? The camera wobbles at the precise instant the "object" rotates, on several occasions. What you're seeing is a gimbaled camera with software auto-leveling; the camera rotates, and the dirt with it.

You can clearly see that the object rotates at a different rate to the camera. You can also see the targeting box adjust itself as the object rotates.

Also I can only presume you think the audio is fake, given what the pilots say about there being a "fleet of them" on the SA display, and the comment about them moving into the wind?

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by krapp on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @03:43AM (#20399932)
That's been the case at least since the X-Files was on the air.

Also remember that little of what gets posted to HN counts as sources within the "mainstream media."

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by virgulino on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:34AM (#20399372)
And stories about flat earth.
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by nullwasamistake on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:26AM (#20399350)
I have noticed this as well. The US govt is trying to send a message by declassifying this stuff, it's just hard to infer what that is.

Maybe it's to let foreign adversaries "know that we know" that they're watching us.

Maybe deflecting something deeper about these craft, my guess is that they're nuclear powered.

Or, it could be real. Maybe ET is watching us. I find this the least likely explanation though

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by tenfivewest on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @02:30AM (#20399594)
I think most likely the government’s not involved. They’re just individuals being scammed by unscrupulous people. There are certainly counter intelligence aspects and perhaps secret testing of technology but neither are primary to the claims of ‘disclosure’.
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by aoeusnth1 on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:19AM (#20399328)
I'm also noticing this.
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by ericmcer on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:20AM (#20399334)
I listened to a podcast interview with Dan Aykroyd recently and he talked about the exact same thing. He is convinced they are doing soft preparation to begin unveiling extraterrestrial life to us. Dan Aykroyd is definitely not a legitimate source haha, but he is someone who is very ear to the ground on this stuff, and you are not alone in noticing a recent uptick in sightings , news, leaks, etc. about UFOs.
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by adrianN on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:23AM (#20399343)
It would be quite the movie plot if extraterrestrial life were revealed right when the humanity needs to work together in a massive push to avoid the climate catastrophe.
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by krapp on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @04:15AM (#20400098)
That would basically just be "Day the Earth Stood Still," but with an environmental, rather than anti-war message.

And it's too late to avoid the climate catastrophe anyway, so the only reason aliens would actually show up is for the free real estate after humanity completes its self-fumigation.

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by imtringued on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @04:42AM (#20400226)
It's never too late. We are just one World War 3 away from the solution...
Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by krapp on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @05:04AM (#20400324)
Humanity could bomb itself back to being just a single stone age tribe tomorrow and it likely wouldn't reverse the course of climate change.

The avalanche has begun, it's too late now for the pebbles to vote.

Re:U.S. Fighters About to Get Infrared Sensors That Could Be... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @11:55PM (#20408987)
Nuclear winter? That could reverse the course of climate change, and then some. (It's not a good answer to the climate problem...)