The forgotten joy of soap

Re:The forgotten joy of soap by newsbinator on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @05:23AM (#20390132)

What is currently recommended instead of bar soap (e.g. instead of a bar of Dove for sensitive skin)?

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by jazoom on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @05:35AM (#20390177)

I don't know if that Dove bar has soap in it, but there are many non-soap cleansers of varying degrees of harshness. I only know the brands available in Australia.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by duncanawoods on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @05:53AM (#20390262)

You are right, no soap. It calls itself a "beauty bar" hah! I use it and it certainly doesn't cause the astringent and drying effect I get from real soap.

I tried to find out whether it was actually recommended for the skin and it's an ungoogleable topic infested by a toxic combination of beauty product snake-oil and "chemicals are evil" antivaxish insanity so I'm none the wiser.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by okcando on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @10:56AM (#20392386)

Dove beauty bars contain soap.

The ingredients list sodium tallowate or sodium palmitate, which are soaps from animal or vegetable fat, respectively.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by duncanawoods on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @12:46PM (#20393765)

Thanks, yep. They are not the primary ingredients which is probably why they can't call it a soap bar.

Interestingly, the "Palm" in Napalm is also Sodium Palmitate.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by benj111 on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @05:24PM (#20396772)

But "Dove doesn't dry your skin like soap can" (uk advertising tagline) which would suggest it isn't soap.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by duncanawoods on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @05:38PM (#20396922)

A theseus ship type issue. As okcando says - it contains fatty acid salts which are what we call soap. However, lots of things contain these without becoming soap e.g. cheese and napalm so... yeah.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by benj111 on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:00PM (#20397102)

charred crusty (but still beautiful) woman turns to face the camera

"Napalm doesn't dry you skin like soap can"

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by geolqued on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:14AM (#20390347)

From the ingredients list on the Amazon product listing it contains a number of soaps derived from coconut, palm and tallow (usually beef fat). Sodium X-ate is a soap made from X.

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by stevejb on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:13AM (#20390339)

I'm in Australia, can you suggest a few brands?

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Re:The forgotten joy of soap by jazoom on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @07:49AM (#20390840)

I use Enya. 1L for $2.99 from Chemist Warehouse. Probably actually has some soapiness in it but claims to be soap-free. Nowhere near as harsh as bar soap. Smells decent. Lathers well. Australian-made.

Wife gets QV Wash, which is less harsh and generally recommended as a gentle cleanser. Expensive, though. Also Australian-made. If you have dry skin, atopic dermatitis, etc. this is what you need.

Cetaphil is in the same section. About as expensive. Doesn't lather as well. Not sure if Australian-made.

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