Re:The death watch for the X Window System has probably started
by nqzero on Sunday July 07, 2019 @08:24PM
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> no one goes around calling that one OS a "giant, existential, ecosystem-fragmenting threat to the open-source community."
we did do that, and they were, but for the most part, for the moment (at least) we've won - so it's no longer on the tip of our tongue
Re:The death watch for the X Window System has probably started
by incompatible on Monday July 08, 2019 @03:00AM
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I'm not sure what victory is being declared here: is Wayland likely to run on more than a tiny fraction of devices any time in the near future? If not, that "one OS" can take a large part of the blame.
Re:The death watch for the X Window System has probably started
by pjmlp on Monday July 08, 2019 @08:12AM
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In an age where POSIX is sliding into irrelevance in what concerns mobile and embedded OSes.
"POSIX Has Become Outdated"
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/login/issues/login_fall1...
That's not how I think of it. By analogy, consider POSIX. Every major operating system supports the POSIX interface--all of them, except one that is. But no one goes around calling that one OS a "giant, existential, ecosystem-fragmenting threat to the open-source community."
Essentially, you have to pick a point somewhere in the stack where you define the common interface between the different hardware vendors. The problem is that one hardware vendor, because it's the 800 lb. gorilla who loves throwing its weight around, decided to not implement the common interface, hoping that its weight will force everyone else to adapt. Wayland is unfortunate enough to be in a position where it relies on that common interface being supported, but this isn't the only place that NVidia has decided to try to scuttle cross-vendor compatibility (GPGPU computing is a very notorious case).