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Re:Is this Paypal experience customary? by TazeTSchnitzel on Friday July 05, 2019 @07:57AM (#20361813)
The EU has a lot of law about digital payments. In September this year, a new provision will come into force in the entire EEA that requires digital payments to be made with two-factor authentication, for example. I don't know whether or how that affects PayPal though.
Re:Is this Paypal experience customary? by lucb1e on Friday July 05, 2019 @12:15PM (#20363648)
Ugh, I'm really going to need virtual phone numbers for all these "second factors" (i.e. linkable identifiers), I'm just not sure where to get them. Twilio requires a credit card, and most other businesses that offer this look super shady.
Re:Is this Paypal experience customary? by TazeTSchnitzel on Friday July 05, 2019 @04:32PM (#20365629)
There's no requirement it be SMS. Card payments in Sweden are already able to comply with this just by having a phone app for authentication.
Re:Is this Paypal experience customary? by lucb1e on Friday July 05, 2019 @05:01PM (#20365878)
I won't install an app on my phone. It probably won't work without Evilcorp Play Framework, it probably won't work with root, and even if neither of those are an issue, I still don't trust my device enough (I won't install banking, password managing, or pgp apps on there, it's too much of a play thing for that). My trusted things are computer-based, not a mobile device that goes everywhere and that I want to be able to use without having to unlock the screen with a complicated password every time.

So it'll probably be SMS, and otherwise they can ship me a second factor -- as the Rabobank already does for as long as I know: they basically send you a payment terminal that creates 0 cent transactions on your card, if I understand it correctly. While a bit annoying, it is safe and not too inconvenient.

Re:Is this Paypal experience customary? by mcv on Saturday July 06, 2019 @08:26PM (#20372857)
That's great news. I hope it will finally result in international support for more secure internet payment. I can do so domestically, but as soon as a transaction is international, credit cards is basically the only thing that's accepted.