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Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by wybiral on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:53PM (#20356442)
If you go down the route of conspiracy theory you have to also believe that the companies who have already issued a PR response are lying and that all of the employees privy to the truth are also staying silent.

That would be quite a story.

Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by cronix on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:50PM (#20356853)
I agree, Snowden was a pretty big story exposing the tech companies for working with the NSA in the PRISM program after previously denying it, including Apple. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by lern_too_spel on Monday July 15, 2019 @05:37PM (#20445538)
Amazing. It's 2019, and you still don't understand what PRISM is. Hint: at no place in the system diagram does it show any NSA system interacting with any of those tech companies' systems.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by the-dude on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:58PM (#20356476)
The iPhone and the atomic bomb were kept secret quite well.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by dillonmckay on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:20PM (#20356670)
I don’t think there has been a case of an atomic bomb engineer leaving a prototype at a bar, though.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by r00fus on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:46PM (#20356829)
How would we know? Information (esp. sensitive ) was a lot easier to hide back then.

Also the iPhone leaked was an iterative-model not the original.

Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by creddit on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:38PM (#20357143)
I think we know because an atomic bomb prototype would have been far too large and conspicuous for an individual to take to, let alone leave at, a bar :)
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by Apocryphon on Thursday July 04, 2019 @06:10PM (#20358202)
Not to mention the bar would’ve been in Los Alamos, a town run by the military.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by JohnBooty on Thursday July 04, 2019 @11:16PM (#20359569)
Also there were rumors of the iPhone for yeeeeaaaars. I remember people jokingly referring to it as "the jesus phone" while speculating about it.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by scarface74 on Friday July 05, 2019 @01:22AM (#20360034)
There were rumors of the iPhone for a couple of years before it was released.

Even funnier, there were quite accurate rumors based on patents of the “true video iPod” since 2003 - a 3.5 inch all touch screen iPod. The rumor sites correctly predicted the iPod Touch down to the resolution years before it was released. They didn’t know that would also be the form factor of the iPhone.

Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by wybiral on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:03PM (#20356526)
One company keeping a specific product launch secret is different from three or four independent companies and all of their network engineers all conspiring.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by the-dude on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:09PM (#20356575)
Sure, but the Manhattan project was a huge undertaking with multiple extremely large facilities.

What if the NSA identified a critical backdoor and ordered all major companies to decommission and not talk about it? ( NSLs )

Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by wybiral on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:11PM (#20356595)
Fair enough... But then they all just did a really crappy job of concealing the patch?
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by the-dude on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:22PM (#20356683)
Note I said decommission, not patch. And aren't most of the outages of this period routing related?
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by wybiral on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:41PM (#20356804)
Why would you assume it to be so malicious, if true?

Maybe they were under attack. Maybe they were just removing all of the Bloomberg rice grain chips! :)

There's an infinite number of "maybe"s though. Far more than there are truths.

Your own bias about the entities shapes your conspiracy theory.

Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by NavekM on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:01PM (#20356930)
From the public, yes. From other nations, no.
Re:Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues by ryanmarsh on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:16PM (#20356638)
Let’s not forget the existence of ayyyy lmao.