It's not as good as those on Thinkpads.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

I much preferred the keyboard on my 2015 MBP to that on my 2018 Thinkpad. The newer Apples keyboards (including the wireless ones) are crap, I agree.

Which thinkpads? From 2003? From 2010? From today?

I got an X1 Extreme. Keyboard is amazing. Didn’t know these keyboards were so much better than any MAC I owned until January this year.

Dat touchpad though...

I don’t mind it. I use the keyboard 95% of the time. Then touchpad much less. While Apple has the best touchpad. Keyboard is more important. IMO.

Interesting. Did you use more traditional thinkpad keyboards (back when IBM owned them)?

I think I used a ThinkPad back in 1997 when my Uncle had a laptop. But aside from that possibility I don’t believe I’ve ever touched one until beginning of this year.

They will take my T520 from my cold, dead hands. That was the last one that came with an actually useful keyboard...

... and thanks to Linux, it runs like on the first day.

I have a T520 at home as my linux box. At work I use a 2015 MacBook Pro.

I don't know.

I don't find the T520's keyboard to be any better than the MBP's. The differences in key placement are much more noticeable than any difference in key shape, travel, or response.

Am I missing something?

... and thanks to Linux, it runs like on the first day.

The integrated Intel GPU in my T520 is stuck on XDDM and never got an updated WDDM driver. So it can't run a modern version of Windows anyways.

Yes, better.

Funny there's a conversation about the ThinkPad 2015 going on - my x240 was the generation that had the buttonless trackpad (which screwed the trackpoint).

Credit to Lenovo, they backtracked within one generation, but I am not nearly so rich as to be able to change laptops that often so it was a costly design "innovation" to me on their end!

You can buy a trackpad with buttons to replace it. It is compatible with the X250 trackpad I think. Or was this only the case with T440s and T450s?

If you have a mint 2015 mac pro 15" with box and battery -- I predict it will be going up in value.

There's a good chance you can have the battery replaced as part of the ongoing recall.

https://support.apple.com/15-inch-macbook-pro-battery-recall

The last Apple laptop with a keyboard of similar quality to current ThinkPads was the G4 AlBook (2003).