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Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by sgustard on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @06:26PM (#20349556)
> view these incidents in context

I view them in the context "software can kill people, and can do so at scale." Same way I view the recent Boeing 737 incidents.

Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by dbbk on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @06:32PM (#20349587)
Human drivers already kill people at scale. Enormous scale. Far greater than that of the incidents of self-driving cars.

Ultimately it will come down to, who is safer?

Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by mamon on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @06:46PM (#20349684)
Machine learning models for AVs are uploaded to whole fleet of vehicles, potentially causing thousands of identical accidents.

No two humans have identical brains, so every human-caused accident is unique.

In other words: human errors do not scale at all, fortunately.

Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by mr_toad on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:03PM (#20350604)
> In other words: human errors do not scale at all, fortunately.

Worldwide there were over 1.3 million road deaths in 2016. That’s a pretty big scale.

Technology, even when deliberately employed to cause death, has rarely managed to cause such carnage.

Re:Waymo gets green light in California to pick up passenger... by dbbk on Thursday July 04, 2019 @07:37AM (#20353641)
I see your point, although I would argue that you could say the same thing about human factors like intoxication. Say there's a big drinking holiday, human-driven deaths go up due to people drink driving. Self-driving cars are immune to that factor.