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Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by mrtksn on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:29PM (#20345854)
>people who can't pay

How does it work? Do you need to apply somewhere that and get certified for "cannot pay" status? Do you need to do it before the bill? What if you can pay 1000$ but cannot pay 2500$? What if you can pay but after paying it your life standards lower significantly? What if you have some money and you were about to go to college but an appendix happened and now you cannot affor college?

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by kyshoc on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:40PM (#20345986)
You're imagining this to be more friendly than it is -- "can't pay for emergency medical care" in the US is a euphemism for "got a bill from the hospital, couldn't pay it, so the hospital sold the debt to a collections agency and wrote the account off as a loss", not a reference to a forgiveness program.

Since the hospital takes a loss in those cases (and has to, since they have to treat everyone), everyone else's cost of care goes up to subsidize the loss.

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by vonmoltke on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:50PM (#20346104)
> You're imagining this to be more friendly than it is -- "can't pay for emergency medical care" in the US is a euphemism for "got a bill from the hospital, couldn't pay it, so the hospital sold the debt to a collections agency and wrote the account off as a loss", not a reference to a forgiveness program.

As someone who's family has been in that situation before, not it is not. We had a $35,000 bill forgiven entirely because we couldn't afford it. The process was certainly stressful, distressing, and we shouldn't have a system where it happened in the first place. That doesn't change the fact that the end result was forgiveness.

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by klipt on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:57PM (#20346172)
If the patient is a destitute homeless person they literally cannot pay. The bill can get sent to collections, but it's not like they have an address to collect from, or a good credit score to ruin, so it's uncollectable.
Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by saltminer on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:48PM (#20346080)
You can typically try to work out a deal with the billing department which might be a payment plan, cash payment in exchange for a discount (easier to get if you have bad or no insurance), or a combination of both. But once they send it to collections, good luck.
Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by harambae on Monday July 08, 2019 @10:32PM (#20388549)
You can negotiate with collections too. If they bought the debt for 5 cents on the dollar (typical) and you make it clear they can accept 50 cents on the dollar or call you for the next 7 years because you just don't care, they may accept.
Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by ars on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:39PM (#20345968)
You just don't pay. They send a bill, you ignore it.

That's about it.