How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera

Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by LocalH on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:29AM (#20343669)

I fail to see how this is creepy (outside of potential uncanny valley issues in edge cases). There is a toggle to disable it, and this is something that most average non-savvy users would either want by default, or wouldn't even notice happening (because the end result will look natural to most).

I don't buy the slippery slope argument here, yet. All they're doing is shifting eyes and nose to compensate for physical offset from the camera. Seems like Animoji would be more creepy, as it's capturing your entire face movement.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by kurtisc on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:33AM (#20344123)

Invoke a slippery slope argument by name irritates me because the name comes from the slippery slope fallacy. It's poor faith debate because it's relies on the unfalsifiable notion that thing A will lead to slipping to thing B. Then you're just discussing feelings about how likely it is.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by gen3 on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:32AM (#20344108)

I agree with you. This seems more like a "quality of usage" type of thing. Now when you look at who your Facetiming, it's like your actually looking at them, instead of their chin. Something like skin smoothing in the regular camera would be worse, in my opinion.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by ubercow13 on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:24AM (#20351808)

Doesn't the camera already have skin smoothing? Or you mean for facetime?

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by ksec on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @05:02PM (#20348747)

I think people who find it creepy are the ones who rarely if ever use Video Conferencing or FaceTime.

And It would have been creepy if this was coming from anyone else. But knowing this would only be available on FaceTime I don't see what's wrong with it.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by phalangion on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:06AM (#20343939)

> I don't buy the slippery slope argument here, yet.

That's how the slippery slopes get you. They look all gentle and inviting at the beginning like you can totally stand on them no problem, then the slippery gets you and you're sliding right on down.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by moneytalks on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:36AM (#20345198)

The real problem with talking about slippery slopes in tech is that we're already on an unrecoverable slide into the unknown. So the question is just "does this new thing make the slide even faster?" Not, "we're on stable ground and we need to be careful about beginning a slide."

There's no going back and we have no idea where we're headed.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by LocalH on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:11AM (#20343974)

Right, I understand that. I just don't feel this particular use of the technology pushes us significantly closer to that point.

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Re:How iOS 13 redraws your eyes so you're looking at the camera by anoncake on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:02AM (#20344336)

> or wouldn't even notice happening

That's the problem.

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