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Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by untog on Sunday June 30, 2019 @10:56PM (#20322125)
I love this project, and I dream of participating in it in my building that is wired for Optimum and Optimum only. It would be a great way to break out of that monopoly.

But I do wonder, how will the rollout of 5G affect projects like this? It's a non-profit so I'll always favor it as a community project, but once Verizon comes knocking with a home 5G router capable of fantastic speeds it'll tempt many, I'm sure.

Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by cjbprime on Monday July 01, 2019 @12:19AM (#20322433)
My cell service on LTE in the US is about as fast as my cable modem. But I can't just cancel my cable internet and tether instead, because every telco performs severe rate-limiting once you use up a bandwidth quota -- there's no truly unlimited data option.

So perhaps you're assuming that 5G will result in unlimited data and the obsolescence of cable internet as a result, but that's not obvious, at least to me.

Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by somepig on Monday July 01, 2019 @01:46AM (#20322756)
Fun Fact: Some carrier throttling works by throttling packets with an unexpected TTL. Android has a default TTL of 64.

You most certainly shouldn't set the default TTL of a tethered device to 65, because then your carrier may fail apply proper limits to that traffic.

Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by a012 on Monday July 01, 2019 @02:54AM (#20323032)
Here in Asia, if my data plan is reached quota, I'll be charged by bandwidth: $x/MB and it's much more expensive than the normal data plans. So I still have full throughput but pay significantly more for it.
Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by ailideex on Monday July 01, 2019 @12:43AM (#20322508)
> So perhaps you're assuming that 5G will result in unlimited data and the obsolescence of cable internet as a result, but that's not obvious, at least to me.

For some reason with every new generation of mobile broadband many people think this is just around the corner but I have yet to find any basis for this belief.

Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by rayiner on Monday July 01, 2019 @10:02PM (#20331504)
It's actually been happening for awhile now: https://www.telecompetitor.com/pew-smartphone-only-homes-gro... https://www.pewinternet.org/2015/12/21/home-broadband-2015. Fixed broadband use peaked in 2013, at 70%. Now it's at 65%.
Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by tempuser24 on Monday July 01, 2019 @10:59AM (#20325918)
There's an interesting org you can become a member of with unlimited 4G data. https://www.calyxinstitute.org/member/map
Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by anonymousJim12 on Monday July 01, 2019 @08:34AM (#20324613)
I'm curious what severe rate limiting looks like. I have a Sprint unlimited plan and I routinely use about 20-30GB of data/mo and I don't think I've ever been throttled, and if I have I haven't noticed it.
Re:NYC Mesh Begins Broadband Expansion in Brooklyn by cjbprime on Monday July 01, 2019 @10:58AM (#20325900)
Looks like a totally unusable connection, barely able to load a web page, and here on Tmo it came with an SMS announcing it. It probably took more than 30GB.