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Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by mbesto on Thursday June 27, 2019 @11:04PM (#20301142)
> This is what some prominent people have said about iOS 7

Prominent finance people criticize other finance people for their decisions all of the time (Buffet et al). I think I could name a hundred other professions where this is also true (I use finance as a good analog). Just because <insert prominent professional> makes a criticism doesn't make it suddenly true.

I personally hated iOS7. Guess what, it clearly didn't stop people from buying more iPhones[0]. At the end of the day, Arment, Heliemann, and Gruber can all take a seat while iOS single-handedly rakes in billions for Apple. This is how business works.

[0] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/276306/global-apple-ipho...

Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by iends on Thursday June 27, 2019 @11:50PM (#20301328)
Are you arguing something can’t be poorly designed if it makes a lot of money?
Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by bryanrasmussen on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:48AM (#20301550)
The problem in arguing about design is that many things may be subjective (I do not believe all of it is subjective) whereas profit at least gives an unarguable metric.
Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by iends on Friday June 28, 2019 @05:10PM (#20308810)
That's kind of naive no? Everybody in this town buys Comcast, but that's not because it's a great product.
Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by bryanrasmussen on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:37PM (#20313462)
the original meaning of naive is natural, I suppose that monopolies are unnatural and as such fall outside the normal argumentation about business quality.

Furthermore I also thought I put in enough qualifiers in my statement that I did not have to defend it as being my overarching philosophy regarding every situation it might possibly be applied to. After I wrote the preceding sentence I proceeded to write another 3 paragraphs until I realized that I was actually writing a bad version of an essay on aesthetics and requirements for being able to speak with critical insight, so I erased those paragraphs and here we are.

Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by jgon on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:37AM (#20301504)
It makes perfect sense! That's why Transformers is a better movie than the Godfather...