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Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by scarface74 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @09:22PM (#20300683)
Gruber has not been shy about bashing Apple’s design decisions with either the keyboards, or the prioritizing of thinness over battery life.

The keyboard debacle was a direct result of Apple striving for thinness.

Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by mistersquid on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:04AM (#20301630)
> or the prioritizing of thinness over battery life.

Apple’s current MacBook lineup starting in late 2017 (i.e. the thinnest laptops and with butterfly keyboards) have the best battery life of any Apple laptop ever made.

I don’t recall Gruber ever complaining about the battery life of Apple’s thin devices. Do you have a link?

Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by scarface74 on Friday June 28, 2019 @07:56AM (#20303382)
But the battery life could be better if they would just keep the size and weight the same. How many people wouldn’t be willing to have a slightly thicker/heavier laptop for more battery life?

But battery life is good in ideal situations but when you start doing anything CPU/GPU intensive, battery life isn’t that great.

Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by jvzr on Friday June 28, 2019 @04:16AM (#20302394)
Huh, you mean late 2016, right? I have late-2016 MBP with a Touchbar
Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by mistersquid on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:30AM (#20305322)
Yes, you’re right. I meant late 2016.
Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by ksec on Friday June 28, 2019 @03:10PM (#20307838)
>Gruber has not been shy about bashing Apple’s design decisions with either the keyboards

Oh hell no, he was VERY late to the keyboard issue. The whole Keyboard issue finally broke out because one journalist got fed up with her keyboard failing so many times, and saw so many people had the same problem, she decide to run a new story on it. That was in early 2018 if I remember correctly.

Re:On Jony Ive Leaving Apple by scarface74 on Friday June 28, 2019 @06:44PM (#20309406)
October 2017

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/10/17/johnston-macboo...

I find these keyboards — specifically, the tales of woe about keys getting stuck or ceasing to work properly — a deeply worrisome sign about Apple’s priorities today.

His initial review of the keyboard before the problems started appearing.

https://daringfireball.net/2016/11/new_touch_bar_equipped_ma...

The keyboard is, for me, a mixed bag, and it’s probably the one thing that many people will like least about these machines. I find less key travel to be less pleasant while typing.

But this article also points out why he didn’t have the problem personally. He famously uses a 20 year old extended mechanical keyboard.

But I’m so far out there on this issue that I use a 20-year-old Apple Extended Keyboard II, with mechanical key switches, at my desk. I’ve never liked any notebook keyboard compared to an actual mechanical keyboard