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Re:Google: carriers should give Android users freedom to unl... by lenni on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @02:41PM (#2029025)
Google at some stage had to decide whether they wanted the carriers' cooperation or the the full openness. I don't really blame them for choosing market traction but for exactly those reasons I will buy an iPhone next time as I'm very unhappy with my T-Mobile branded HTC phone. (I fell into the trap of thinking that all Android phones will be rootable, about a year ago when that wasn't so well known).

If I have the choice of bending over in front of Apple or T-Mobile I choose Apple. You'll probably say that I should get a Nexus [One|S] but the entire episode has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Re:Google: carriers should give Android users freedom to unl... by biafra on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @01:47PM (#2028825)
If it's really the carriers demanding bootloader lockdowns why is it impossible for me in Europe to get those phones unlocked if I buy them without subsidy? I think it is also the manufacturers who are responsible.
Re:Google: carriers should give Android users freedom to unl... by zaphar on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @01:58PM (#2028872)
That is partly true but in reality the manufacturers don't seem to consider you their customer. They look at the carrier more so than the end-user as their customer. The only way to get their handset used by an end-user is to deal with the carriers so the problem starts there.
Re:Google: carriers should give Android users freedom to unl... by iamdave on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @02:36PM (#2029002)
Correction: Phone producers should sell their phones detached from the teat that is a dedicated carrier and let users decide which network they want to use it on.
Re:Google: carriers should give Android users freedom to unl... by riobard on Tuesday December 21, 2010 @03:08PM (#2029144)
Should make a law to completely forbid subsidiary of mobile phones from carriers. The current situation is so harmful to the long term development of mobile Internet and mobile devices.
Re:Google: carriers should give Android users freedom to unl... by iamdave on Wednesday December 22, 2010 @08:47AM (#2031282)
A lot of the problem in enacting such a thing is that manufacturers have completely bought into this as a way of life. Take the Samsung Galaxy S lineup, four practically identical phones on four different carriers, with four different names with four different types of lockdowns and preloaded software ontop of Android.

I can't think of a single reason why that makes sense, yet I have a Galaxy S in my pocket right now.