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Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by jquery on Monday June 24, 2019 @12:06AM (#20260482)
>I grew up in a country that doesn't charge money for education.

Your country almost certainly does charge for education, you're just shielded from the immediate cost.

>The system of being unable to discharge student loan debt via bankruptcy seems brazenly corrupt, though, such that demolishing the whole thing may be an appropriate response.

Alternatively, going forward we could allow the discharging of student debt in bankruptcy with the knowledge that this would prevent many useless degrees from being funded and correspondingly would result in a large decrease in higher education spending. I'm fully in favor. For far too many people college is merely an extended adolescence and creates perverse signaling issues when it comes to getting a good job. As a nation, we should be more mindful of the degrees we decide to fund and the amounts dedicated to such degrees. Your nation, which "doesn't charge money for education," is almost certainly doing this.

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by omnimus on Monday June 24, 2019 @03:16AM (#20261222)
"many useless degrees" is very thin ice to walk on. If there are people wanting to learn something then it's not useless.

Looking at it from economical standpoint only is just very narrow view. Education is not training for a job. There is value in knowledge. Even if you think only about economy it's very hard to predict what will be profitable.

Dont forget that if someone is studying "useless degree" than it's enough burden to know you might not get job in that field.

I think it's wonderful if anyone has a chance to have a try at higher education.

Also as many countries show education doesn't have to be expensive and putting financial limits on them keeps them efficient.

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by malvosenior on Monday June 24, 2019 @09:31AM (#20263369)
> "many useless degrees" is very thin ice to walk on. If there are people wanting to learn something then it's not useless.

Maybe so, but it's also not something I'm willing to pay for or subsidize as a tax payer. Sitting around reading books all day would also be enriching but no one is claiming we should pay people to do that with tax dollars.

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by ptah on Monday June 24, 2019 @11:26AM (#20264439)
i can't think of a better way to spend tax tbh
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by AnimalMuppet on Monday June 24, 2019 @11:47AM (#20264738)
Infrastructure spending is worthwhile, but it still has "bridges to nowhere". Similarly, education is worthwhile, but it also has "degrees to nowhere". Not all degrees for all people are worth their cost.
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by cjbprime on Monday June 24, 2019 @02:08PM (#20266510)
Even if I agreed that some degrees are worth less to humanity, I'd still want to fund all of them, because I don't know (and don't think you know) which ones are which.
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by ptah on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @04:08AM (#20272059)
there is no way of telling which degree would lead to progress. Steve Jobs famously studied calligraphy after dropping out but still "auditing" classes. if he didn't study "useless" courses effectively tuition free, apple would never have come to pass.
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by malvosenior on Monday June 24, 2019 @11:34AM (#20264548)
Public transit? Functioning infrastructure? Lowering taxes and letting people keep their hard earned money? Paying for other people's entertainment is pretty much the lowest item on my list and I dare say it should be self funded 100% of the time.