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Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by hprotagonist on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:17PM (#20260191)
"But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’"

This is a very bitter pill. But you get to choose how to swallow it.

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by CaliforniaKarl on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:21PM (#20260212)
I’m curious, where is that from?
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by hprotagonist on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:26PM (#20260243)
'the parable of the workers in the vineyard', one of the weirder and more radical ones. It's a real hard thing to think about, which is probably why it sticks in my mind. It takes every normal rule about sensible economic practices and just stomps on it.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+20&vers...

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by RandomTisk on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:26PM (#20260247)
Jesus [0]. Now if that 1.6T was the money that Bernie Sander's himself had loaned out to students, I could see the connection here.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Workers_in_the_...

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by scarejunba on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:27PM (#20260254)
Where else? The Bible. Jesus is trying to point out that it doesn't matter whether you were pious all your life or came to it late. You still get to enter the Kingdom of Heaven
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by hprotagonist on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:35PM (#20260306)
and the Kingdom of Heaven does not have to have anything to do with “what happens to you when you die”.

Along with “son of man”, it’s one of the more undefined but well known phrases from the NT.

I tend to think it’s got vastly more to do with improving the life we know than it does with anything about “getting to go to heaven if you’re good”

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by RandomTisk on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:40PM (#20260331)
The parable literally starts saying "The Kingdom of heaven is like"... so you can't really escape from that context.
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by hprotagonist on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:51PM (#20260385)
What I mean is that the phrase itself is not well defined. Certainly the parable is meant to tell us something about its character, but not necessarily its nature.

Until I was in adulthood I figured it meant “heaven”; that is not at all clear, actually.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingship_and_kingdom_of_God#...

Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by kbutler on Sunday June 23, 2019 @11:45PM (#20260362)
But in Sanders' case 1) it isn't his money (and no, that money doesn't just appear because he wants to spend it), and 2) it sets the expectation of future cancellations, promoting excessive borrowing (moral hazard).
Re:Sanders to propose canceling entire $1.6T in US student l... by kbutler on Monday June 24, 2019 @11:03PM (#20270812)
I'd be interested in opposing views, as there must be some, judging by the reaction, but the above seems very apparent to me - I don't see why people would disagree or consider it controversial. Sanders wants to tax high earners to fund the debt forgiveness, and even if that would be sufficient, those funds would not be available for other spending (e.g., medicare for all, or the next "should be free for all" program - "housing for all", etc.)