Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by serf on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:16AM
(#20189887)
You're ultimately correct, but the YT Fair Use Guidelines don't seem to be directly at odds -- unless Apple is arguing that the laughter hurts the copyrighted works profitability?
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by criley2 on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:39AM
(#20189982)
While it's true, it's also missing enough detail to be wrong. There are laws governing content use on websites and Youtube is obeying the safe harbor provision with hasty response to take down requests. So the reason they take your video down here is "compliance with the law".
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by opencl on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:20AM
(#20189909)
The uploader filed a counter-notice and Youtube put the video back. The fact that some of the videos got reinstated doesn't change that Apple filed the DMCA takedowns in the first place.
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by FabHK on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:22AM
(#20189918)
This is total nonsense, non-news.
Apple hosts itself a recording of the keynote, and that contains the developer reaction unedited. (This I have verified after they finally posted the keynote on their website; it is conceivable that they've edited it afterwards again, but we'd need evidence for that.)
Apple also takes down videos and excerpts of the keynote on Youtube.
There is no hiding of the developer reaction going on.
(Unless someone can provide evidence that it is only those particular excerpts of the keynote that are being taken down on YouTube.)
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by czr on Saturday June 15, 2019 @08:43AM
(#20189741)
For anyone who want it: Apple includes the full WWDC keynote, unedited, on their YouTube channel, including the moment in question (at https://youtu.be/psL_5RIBqnY?t=6118)
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by jmull on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:26AM
(#20189930)
That doesn’t appear to be true to me.
I watched the portion of the keynote from Apple’s feed and a couple other videos and they seem substantially the same. The sound’s actually better on the Apple video so I can hear the rumble (not really “boos”) more clearly.
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by FabHK on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:18AM
(#20189901)
No, that's not true. I checked about the day after the keynote: the moment on Apple's recording of the event is exactly the same as the moment was on the live stream.
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by scarface74 on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:23AM
(#20189921)
It’s easy to prove that your statement is incorrect. John Siracusa posted on twitter that the segment where they announced the stand was 56 frames - a little less than 2 seconds.
Re:Apple strips clips of devs booing $999 monitor stand usin...
by serf on Saturday June 15, 2019 @09:13AM
(#20189872)
I don't know if it's just me, but i'd rather not direct a monetizable view to the perpetrator of (what I consider) copyright system abuse for the very event they bottlenecked/dammed/funneled the views towards their channel during.
Awkward sentence, I know. I can't think of more simplistic way to put it this early in the morning.
A small fragment of a copyrighted video as part of a larger work made to satirize is completely legal!
Aren’t there penalties for fake DCMA requests?
Nothing is automatically fair use. At the end of the day only a judge can decide if something is fair use or not.
[ https://www.youtube.com/yt/about/copyright/fair-use/#yt-copy... Guideline : 4. The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work]
Apple hosts itself a recording of the keynote, and that contains the developer reaction unedited. (This I have verified after they finally posted the keynote on their website; it is conceivable that they've edited it afterwards again, but we'd need evidence for that.)
Apple also takes down videos and excerpts of the keynote on Youtube.
There is no hiding of the developer reaction going on.
(Unless someone can provide evidence that it is only those particular excerpts of the keynote that are being taken down on YouTube.)
I watched the portion of the keynote from Apple’s feed and a couple other videos and they seem substantially the same. The sound’s actually better on the Apple video so I can hear the rumble (not really “boos”) more clearly.
Can you explain what you mean?
Awkward sentence, I know. I can't think of more simplistic way to put it this early in the morning.
They won’t even take marketing money from Intel to put the garish stickers on their computers.