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Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by rdm_blackhole on Thursday June 13, 2019 @05:49PM (#20178884)
Don't forget the main feature, it won't let you block those pesky ads!
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by rdm_blackhole on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:33PM (#20179193)
Maybe I should have added the /s at the end of my comment.

I am aware that the change to the webRequest API has not been implemented yet.

However, I just could not resist having a bit of fun when I saw this headline.

And yes, I actually did switch to FF in light of this announcement from Google.

I actually tried to switch a few times in the past but never really had the motivation to do so. Google gave me the motivation, so I guess, thanks Google!

Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by staticassertion on Thursday June 13, 2019 @05:52PM (#20178916)
AFAIK the new proposal allows dynamic filtering, which addresses the primary concern with adblocking tools like uBlock, I believe.

> The Declarative Net Request API now allows for the registration and removal of dynamic rules - specified at runtime rather than statically in the manifest. We’ve also added the capability to remove common tracking headers, such as Referer, Cookie, and Set-Cookie.

https://blog.chromium.org/2019/06/web-request-and-declarativ...

My opinion though is that if you were going to switch over this, just switch anyway.

Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by ac29 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:32PM (#20179191)
There is a limit of 30k rules though, which isn't enough to contain even uBO's defaults. While it looks like they are moving to a 150k global limit, even that is less than my current uBO setup of over 200k.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by staticassertion on Friday June 14, 2019 @12:24AM (#20180570)
But the article addresses this by saying that the vast majority of rules never get used?
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by viraptor on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:51PM (#20179297)
They can work around that by concatenating multiple checks into a single rule though, right?
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by danShumway on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:16PM (#20179427)
No, as far as I can tell Gorhill's position on the policy hasn't changed since dynamic filtering was introduced. The primary concern isn't that rules can't be modified, it's that they're declarative -- meaning developers can only use filtering schemes that Google explicitly supports.

It's inaccurate to say that the revised v3 addresses all API concerns.

Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by staticassertion on Friday June 14, 2019 @12:24AM (#20180572)
Oh, ok. I really wasn't sure.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by mda on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:03PM (#20178971)
It is not implemented, and ad blocking still works. Also they recently announced more changes to the proposal. To be fair they have some good reasons to change existing api. World is not ending yet.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by untog on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:04PM (#20178978)
Their new proposal for blocking ads is exactly the same as the idea Apple offers with Safari, and it blocks ads just fine.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by danShumway on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:20PM (#20179447)
UBlock Origin, UMatrix, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes, and HTTPS Everywhere are all not available on Safari, in part because the APIs they rely on aren't available.

I'm not sure why people make the claim that Safari is just as good at blocking ads as Firefox and Chrome. It's not. The extension options on Safari are comparatively quite limited, in no small part because of technical decisions like this.

Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by y_molodtsov on Friday June 14, 2019 @01:59AM (#20180846)
I use UBlock on Safari. It’s there.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by danShumway on Friday June 14, 2019 @08:21AM (#20182346)
I'm on a Mac and just checked the Safari extension store. The only extension I see for Ublock is a fork of Ublock Origin called Ublock Safari. It hasn't been updated in a year, and is thousands of commits behind the official version.

It also isn't distributed by Gorhill, even though the extension lists him as the author in the extension store. In fact, none of this information is listed on the extension page itself.

I'm not sure the extension you're using is what you think it is -- I would be at least mildly cautious about installing it.

Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by danShumway on Friday June 14, 2019 @11:21AM (#20183707)
See also this issue (https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/145) on Ublock Safari's Github filled with people complaining that the extension doesn't work and that Safari's tech restrictions mean that there aren't suitable alternatives.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by Asooka on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:17PM (#20179083)
There was a very big thread about this, it's nothing like Apple. The limits are much smaller on the amount of things you can put in a blocklist.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by lern_too_spel on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:27PM (#20179142)
Even if they end up implementing Apple-style simple blocking, they said at the beginning that they would adjust the limits. Most recently, they said the limit would be 150k, which is three times the number Apple allows. https://blog.chromium.org/2019/06/web-request-and-declarativ...
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by untog on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:06PM (#20179380)
So it's actually a lot like Apple, just with different limits?
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by woodruffw on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:53PM (#20179314)
Emphasis on idea; IIRC, previous threads have pointed out that Apple hasn't put a limit on their API, or has made the limit much larger.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by amanzi on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:55PM (#20179326)
I'm interested to see how this will affect other browsers built off the Chromium source code, e.g. new Edge, Brave, Opera, etc
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by selectodude on Thursday June 13, 2019 @06:57PM (#20179338)
Brave and Opera have said they're going to fork and add back the API to allow true adblocking.
Re:Chrome 76 Beta: dark mode, payments, new PWA features and... by ChrisGranger on Thursday June 13, 2019 @07:18PM (#20179435)
Vivaldi has mentioned this possibility as well.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/chromium-ad-blockers-choice/