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Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by resters on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:35PM (#20177002)
> It's also worth remembering that he disseminated information on the behalf of the Russian state in an effort to get Trump elected.

Not sure why you believe that any more than you would believe the claims that Saddam had WMDs.

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by bduerst on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:59PM (#20177197)
Guccifer 2.0 was a Russian intelligence hacker group that hacked the Democratic National Committee emails and delivered to Assange and Wikileaks to publicly release. [1] Wikileaks then dropped the emails in parcels - behavior they had never done before - in order to manipulate news headlines leading up to the 2016 federal elections. [2]

This is confirmed by numerous, independent security firms, such as CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Fireeye's Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, and others - making it not the same as the WMDs in Iraq smokescreen.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0 [2] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wikileaks-hillary-clint...

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by p1esk on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:58PM (#20177658)
I am bit confused, did the hackers falsify/forge anything? Or did they reveal some accurate information about the candidate(s)? If the latter, then what's the problem? Didn't they make American voters more informed? Would this be somehow different (e.g. less evil) had the same thing been done by American journalists?
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by bduerst on Thursday June 13, 2019 @04:30PM (#20178308)
GP claimed that Wikileaks and Russian promotion of the Trump campaign was on par with the WMD intelligent in Iraq - i.e. the Russian involvement is just a "smokescreen" - which it is not.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by epicureanideal on Thursday June 13, 2019 @03:08PM (#20177735)
It’s not true that WikiLeaks never slowly released information before. That was entirely consistent with how they had been doing things.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by bduerst on Thursday June 13, 2019 @04:28PM (#20178285)
No, it wasn't. Read the cited article if you disagree. Assange and wikileaks also reached out to the Trump campaign to coordinate the email leaks.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by cat199 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:22PM (#20177372)
None of this definitively means it was done 'on behalf of', nor 'for the benefit of'. 'to the benefit of', perhaps, but an unwitting puppet is not necessarily an accomplice.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by gamblor956 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:28PM (#20177415)
Per the Mueller Report, Assange attempted to coordinate the leaks with the Trump campaign.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by scarejunba on Thursday June 13, 2019 @04:13PM (#20178187)
Well, he picked the wrong allies.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by ABeeSea on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:00PM (#20177205)
Assange working with Russians is a conclusion reached by all US intelligence agencies. Saddam having WMDs was only the conclusion of a stovepiped intelligence team that reported directly to Dick Cheney and created by him (the office of special plans).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stovepiping

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by cat199 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:23PM (#20177376)
'with' and 'for' are two quite different words. which was it?
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by ABeeSea on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:40PM (#20177521)
Both. He had a show on state-sponsored Russian Television.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by cat199 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:27PM (#20177409)
> war crimes and killing journalists.

and yet, the saudi's are our allies and noone cares when prince so-and-so donates to XYZPQ election via some proxy organization..

i have no doubt russia attempted to influence the election.

the question is: which government really doesnt, and why is russia singled out here?

with a follow up of:

how is foreign policy really decided?

and what happens in the land of entrenched beurocrats and technocrats and their allies when someone is elected who threatens a major shift in FP?

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by malvosenior on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:20PM (#20177361)
He published evidence of political corruption. It's a good thing he did it too so that US voters could make a fully informed decision about the candidates.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by gamblor956 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:26PM (#20177404)
He published altered and forged documents alleging corruption, where said documents were provided by the Russian intelligence agencies for the sole purpose of influencing the US presidential election.

And Assange, knowing this, attempted to coordinate the release of these falsified documents with the Trump administration. While also prohibiting Wikileaks from publishing any negative documents about Trump.

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by malvosenior on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:29PM (#20177421)
There is no evidence that those emails were falsified or forged. Even the participants didn't dispute their validity.

The story is that Hillary was colluding with the DNC and the mainstream media, not that someone you don't like let everyone know about it.

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by simion314 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:08PM (#20177269)
>It's also worth remembering that he disseminated information on the behalf of the Russian state in an effort to get Trump elected.

And how can you define this as espionage ? Publishing thins you don't like or even publishing false accusations is not espionage.

Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by 292355744930110 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:58PM (#20177188)
Published factual information that was damaging to a political candidate because it exposed their wrongdoing.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by Mugwort on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:59PM (#20177196)
I believe the findings of the Mueller report, that Trump did not collude with the Russians to sway the election. I'm rather relieved about it. The possibility of Russia hacking our elections was a very serious matter and I'm glad the case is closed. Still, I'm very very distressed about Trump being President. At least the Russians aren't involved. Now, regarding war crimes and killing journalists, Soviet Russia had a long history of that. It's very disturbing the US is going down that path.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by bduerst on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:02PM (#20177226)
The Mueller investigation did not find evidence of collusion, but that is not the same as evidence of no collusion. There was plenty of evidence that Wikileaks and the Russian State were influencing the election in favor of Trump: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-blames-putin...
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by Mugwort on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:30PM (#20177429)
I don't disagree but how much influence did they have? The biggest culprits for swaying the election is none other than the US media by giving Trump billions of dollars worth of free election coverage for profits. They knew the negative coverage was energizing his base but they did it anyone because money. Blaming the US media however is as useless as blaming Wikileaks or Russia. At some point we need to admit we have our own self inflicted problems and quit blaming everyone else for them. Trump is a symptom we have been going down the wrong path for a very long time. I'm not optimistic about the US ever being introspective about its actions but it's the only way forward. The problem is US, not somebody else.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by bduerst on Thursday June 13, 2019 @04:34PM (#20178334)
"What about the US Media" is whataboutism - a deflection. Russian intelligence hacked U.S. political parties and used the illegally obtained information to influence the election for one candidate. The case is not closed as you say because the political party that benefitted from the foreign influence is blocking legislation to fix the problem.
Re:Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request by bguillet on Thursday June 13, 2019 @02:06PM (#20177252)
Trump not colliding with the Russians doesn't mean the Russians were not involved in the election. It just means he did not work with them. They could (and probably did) worked on their own because it's their own best interest to see Trump elected.