SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transition strategy

Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by thrower123 on Thursday June 13, 2019 @11:18AM (#20175671)

Is the Windows Store a thing that people actually use? I'm broken by decades of Windows use, going back to 3.1 at this point, so I am completely conditioned to installing software off of disks (it's still a thing, I swear!) or downloading from a website. I also run Windows 10 LTSB on all my machines, so there is no Store available there.

The vast majority of the paid software I have consists of games that come from Steam or Gog. Steam really doesn't work well with UWP games, and the Gog stuff I have is mostly nicely packaged DosBox games from an earlier age.

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Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by derefr on Thursday June 13, 2019 @11:26AM (#20175769)

I’m mostly a Mac user, but when setting up a friend’s Windows 10 PC, I used the Windows Store to download whatever apps I could that were available there, and only installed from the web for apps that didn’t have Windows Store versions.

My thinking is:

1. apps on the Windows Store have some level of sandboxing forced upon them, so I can rest assured that the Windows Store releases of these apps won’t make a mess of their computer, even after major-version updates. (Remember uTorrent?)

2. Windows Store apps get automatically updated in the background without ever running them—like apps installed via the OS package manager on Linux. Give some people any chance to cancel/delay an update, and they’ll do it, indefinitely. Better for most regular users [who aren’t relying on any reflexive professional workflows] to have their apps just “be” the newest version, at all times.

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Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by opencl on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:07PM (#20176769)

The sandboxing part isn't quite true anymore. You can use Desktop Bridge to package win32 apps for the store. These apps are not sandboxed in the way that UWP apps are though they are still kinda-sorta sandboxed (they can access any file the user can, but the appdata folder and registry edits are sandboxed).

There is also some sort of vaguely-stated plan to allow totally unsandboxed win32 apps in the store at some point in the future but seems to specifically only apply to games.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/msix/desktop/deskto...

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Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by astrange on Thursday June 13, 2019 @10:54PM (#20180278)

Aren't games the easiest apps to sandbox? They do everything custom and it's not like they even need an open file dialog.

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Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by tinus_hn on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:17AM (#20181531)

Except for the copy protection, anti cheat system and the low level access that is required for performance.

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Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by tinus_hn on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:16AM (#20181524)

99% of users don’t have optical drives anymore so installing software from disks isn’t really that much of a thing anymore. You have to provide a usb optical drive with the disk if you want that and then you might as well provide a thumb drive.

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Re:SwiftUI and Catalyst: Apple executes its invisible transi... by pjmlp on Thursday June 13, 2019 @05:23PM (#20178697)

It is, most of the new software I get is via the store.

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