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Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by nilkn on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @09:02PM (#20160891)
Unfortunately, this sort of ignores that many academic departments are often crippled by overwhelming internal politics, and they rarely scale beyond a few dozen people at most. Moreover, many academicians within a department often work on completely separate projects requiring little or no coordination of any kind. This is dramatically different from what is encountered in many commercial organizations and companies.

My experience is that flat structures in large commercial enterprises usually reproduce stratified structures embedded within them, and they actually enhance the degree of stratification by obscuring who makes decisions and creating unassailable cliques.

Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:15PM (#20161181)
And large companies are not crippled by internal politics?
Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by suchire on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:06PM (#20161403)
Large companies tend towards politics because it’s hard to build empathy and trust across thousands of people. Academic departments tend towards politics because nominal leaders either have no training or no power
Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by gloggy on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:02AM (#20161674)
The battles are so fierce because the stakes are so low.
Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by anigbrowl on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @05:45PM (#20169659)
Yes and no. The stakes are low in terms of the organization as a whole, but extremely high for the participants because the tiny stakes represent the bulk of their available resources.

Picture a hungry crowd of 100 people. They will fight each other over 10 sacks of rice because without those 'low stakes' some people are going to starve and die. They can't wait for there to be a bigger prize worth struggling over because if they they'll be dead. So what looks like petty conflict from above is actually desperate struggle for survival from below.

When someone at the top of a hierarchy points to a conflict at a lower level and says it's petty and invalid, the higher-up(s) have generally made it that way and are lying about that fact to preserve or increase their power, by offering implicit bribes to whoever is willing to kick their peers on behalf of the higher-up(s). Any time such a person talks about 'the bigger picture' it's an invitation to participants in a lower-level resource conflict to defect to the hierarchy in exchange for a minor elevation in status.

Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by akie on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:56PM (#20168056)
Not always true. My wife is in academia and involved in multimillion euro projects, and oh boy - do they fight. Usually dirty.
Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by JamesBarney on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:29PM (#20161241)
It's harder for large organizations to make decisions than smaller organizations. But a hierarchy helps not hinders that process.
Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @05:52AM (#20163101)
Sure. But I’ve seen fiefdoms and cronyism pop up in parts of a hierarchy. The decisions that got made can only be described as attempts to bolster their CVs.
Re:No Kings: How Do You Make Good Decisions Efficiently in a... by chepaslaaa on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:17PM (#20161468)
small companies have internal politics too, if they're crippling depends on factors but it is very possible