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Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by heavenlyhash on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:09PM (#20149759)
Oslo resident here.

Indeed.

Look also to:

- the near-universality of charger stations on streets, both in residential and commercial districts;

- the huge tax subsidies for buying and owning electric vehicles;

- the low cost of (clean, incidentally) electricity (I believe most of the charger posts in the city are free, though I should note I don't drive myself);

- the substantial tarrifs and fees for poluting vehicles in the city center areas (we're talking more than a cup of coffee's cost to enter ring 1, as well as lighter but still extant fees for the larger outer rings);

- as well as some air control days where vehicles with exhaust may be outright forbidden from operating in the city center entirely...

- and all of these pressures are being tuned up over time. It's widely-discussed and part of campaigns to make things greener. So people are not only responding to the current numbers, but considering the future.

This has everything to do with the society, its incentives, and how those incentives were rationally designed; and very, very little to do with a particular manufacturer and their marketing.

Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by bagacrap on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:31PM (#20149960)
Isn't the country's enormous wealth largely due to the sale of fossil fuels? Tax incentives for EV usage are great, but it's only possible because of the rest of the world's dependence on oil. It's really hard to take any lesson or even comfort from a story like this. It's not possible for everyone to offshore their carbon footprint.
Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by apex3stoker on Monday June 10, 2019 @04:07PM (#20150276)
Having fossil fuels makes it harder to introduce incentives to promote alternative energy. Countries with fossil fuels tend to enrich a small fraction of ruling class (and foreign oil companies) which uses fossil fuel subsidies to maintain power. Norway managed to escape this curse because of foresight (http://web.archive.org/web/20100123225932/http://www.ft.com/...).
Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by xiphias2 on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:47PM (#20150094)
Would it be better if Norway would not lead the transition to sustainability?

They understand how bad it is (also their oil reserves are not as great as before), and at least trying to take action before it's too late.

Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by gingabriska on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @12:59AM (#20153106)
If Norway wants to strive for sustainability they should be installing power plants in India and offering EVs and free charging ports there. In coming days, India is going to surpass all countries when it comes to net pollution.

I don't know why these rich countries never do anything to improve quality of life on whole planet.

Pollution or climate change won't respect borders, so why should they?

Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by xiphias2 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @02:10AM (#20153325)
The money you are talking about would easily bankrupt Norway. What a government can do is to create tax incentives for EVs and tax gasoline cars, as laws are free. Norwegian government is not able to change the Indian tax code.

What I see as important is anything that moves the price of EVs down and utility up. Norway is helping EV battery research a lot (although China still leads).

Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by Para2016 on Monday June 10, 2019 @05:20PM (#20150980)
Actually yes, another country should "lead" the transition. It's a global issue. Doing a good thing for your own population while continuing to export fossil fuel is hypocritical.
Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by breakyerself on Monday June 10, 2019 @07:27PM (#20151852)
I'm guessing you're not a fan of harm reduction programs.
Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by Para2016 on Monday June 10, 2019 @09:33PM (#20152425)
Just not a big fan of hypocrites. I see it as similar to a country that preaches peace and diplomacy while manufacturing weapons and selling to beligerants.
Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by atombender on Monday June 10, 2019 @06:27PM (#20151487)
I'm not sure I see how Norway converting to EVs increases fossil-fuel use elsewhere in the world.

If anything, increased EV sales will help in tipping the trend against fossil-fuel-burning vehicles and have a positive impact everywhere.

Even if you consider oil money to be morally questionable, it can be employed as a soft power in a positive way.

Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by xenospn on Monday June 10, 2019 @08:45PM (#20152220)
It's also important to point out that the cost of a cup of coffee in Oslo is more than most breakfasts in the US.
Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by Theodores on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:25PM (#20149903)
Hi Oslo resident.

Just had a streetview browse of your city, first view with the yellow man gave me an oncoming Tesla. I had a look for the chargers but didn't find any, I guess you need an app and to know what to look for.

More noticeable are the trams. Forget electric cars, trams are the future and I liked seeing so many of them. I tried to stay off the tramways as you aren't going to have charging points there, but now I want to know, if you didn't have an app, where would you look in Oslo for a street level charging facility?

Kind of inspired to go there after seeing the sunny day street view pics, lovely place!

Re:Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record ma... by pi-rat on Monday June 10, 2019 @04:13PM (#20150350)
Not a Oslo resident, but maybe I can help :)

You can find chargers in Norway by using one of the many maps or apps: https://www.ladestasjoner.no/kart/

Many of the Oslo chargers look like this: https://www.salto.no/media/images/referanser/_big4by3/søyle-...

Here's another one: https://www.google.com/maps/@59.9287152,10.7231221,3a,59.2y,...

See the instructional video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgb4Rr6cG38

With the current gen electric cars it's easy to keep a car charged in Norway. I haven't installed a charging station in the garage yet, so I just park mine at one of the city (Bergen) car parks once per week (while I go to work). A work day of charging gives me about 400 km (250 miles) range.